Star Wars: Shatterpoint Announced By Atomic Mass Games
November 9, 2022 by brennon
Atomic Mass Games has today announced their new Star Wars miniatures game coming to tabletops in Summer 2023. Star Wars: Shatterpoint is a new squad-based affair taking on the role of iconic characters from the breadth of the Star Wars universe.
Star Wars: Shatterpoint // Atomic Mass Games
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The game will see you taking on the role of characters like Ahsoka Tano, Bo-Katan Kryze, Lord Maul, Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Assaj Ventress, Count Dooku and more as you clash on the tabletop in a skirmish-based affair with squads of followers in tow.
Count Dooku // Star Wars: Shatterpoint
From the looks of it, the new miniatures are going to be a little larger than their Star Wars: Legion counterparts and probably match the 40mm scale seen in Marvel: Crisis Protocol (Note: We don't know the scale for sure but we're guessing based on the look of the sculpts previewed so far). It also looks like we've got a neat focus on these main characters and the iconic followers they are often seen on screen with.
Darth Maul // Star Wars: Shatterpoint
There also seems to be a distinct focus on the Clone Wars to kick things off with a lot of characters drawn from the animated show. Whilst the game looks to include characters in distinct groups, it seems like there are also options allowing you to mix and match to find new and interesting ways of playing the game.
General Grievous // Star Wars: Shatterpoint
This is just a quick look at what's on offer and I'm sure we'll get even more information on Shatterpoint over the next few months. There is also this neat trailer worth checking out!
Star Wars: Shatterpoint Trailer // Atomic Mass Games
The trailer shows off a lot more of the characters they have been working on for the game and gives you a sense of the number of miniatures you'll be seeing per side. This certainly sounds interesting and if the number of miniatures per side is low, I could see Shatterpoint being an enticing option for those wanting to get a Star Wars fix.
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Wow, that is a punch in the face to fans. Same SW minis but now bigger.
did it before….they’ll do it again (imperial assault was embiggened to legion… legion is now being embiggened to Shatterpoint)
Punch in their wallets! 🙂
The minis looks nice but how many games does Atomic Mass Games now have to handel? X-Wing, Armada, Legion, Crisis Protocol and this, that’s quite a bit.
I know making a new game with a new scale is a wise decision financially, but I would have rather liked it if it was a epansion/game mode for Legion.
My thoughts exactly.
But I thought you wanted Epic Star Wars! 🙂
This is what one can think when someone says it’s going to be a game called Star Wars LEGION…
Legion meaning (acc. to Oxford Languages):
1- A division of 3,000–6,000 men, including a complement of cavalry, in the ancient Roman army.
2- A vast number of people or things.
And the vast number of people finally consisted in Darth Vader, General veers, Boba Fett, and a couple of 6 men units… and now it is even worse… if that was called legion and it was a skirmish, now this is called a skirmish so it’ll be a squabble…
I am sorry, in my opinion nothing to do with Star wars.
Please SOMEONE (not necessarily AMG) could make a Star wars game with hundreds of troops?
I wish they had at least issued some of the characters for SW:Legion first like Ahsoka Tano and Assaj Ventress. I have been waiting for them for ages, besides some of the other Jedi.
If they issue the rules for free I will play this game with the miniatures I already have, just like I do with Marvel Crises Protocol.
The figures though are lovely and I would not mind picking a couple up for painting and showcase pieces.
They have already shown off Ahsoka and Assaj for Lgion, this game relases in summer 2023. So it’s likely the Legion minis for those two will be relased before this game
It feels like AMG were given FFG’s slate of Star Wars games to sunset as they failed to deliver sales that pleased the corporate overlords at Asmodee. Legion may still keep going, but it definitely feels like the old stock is not moving and the new stock is not selling out. And I don’t have much faith in the practice of trying to sell people the same minis twice, at two slightly different scales.
This gives them to chance to start selling a Star Wars game based on the same model they developed with MCP, and probably will suit moving into the expanded universe of scum and villainy better. Though I don’t know if people will want it.
And why don’t make a star wars game based on the same model developed by other wonderful miniatures games?? Even fans have developed a bolt action ruleset for legion! Why it is so difficult to make a Bolt Action or Warhammer 40k or Adeptus titanicus or Dropzone commander or Flames of war or whatever using Star Wars??? Why keep insisting in small groups of soldiers subject to the already known same heroes again and again???
Great looking game figures for player’s to snap up.
Nope.
Not loving the idea. It will cut into the ranks of SW:L players. Especially with budgets for hobby getting tighter. It might had been a nice addition pre pandemic but now it’s just. Wrong thing at the wrong time. And to be honest, if you look at all light sabre wielding minis: every lightsaber is bent. It’s not always visible due to camera angle but they all are bent. If they use such models as promo shots I’m not having much confidence in the finished product.
Well, I really hate to be the negative nancy but I really feel like this is a completely unneeded product. At least in my book. *sigh*
indeed… I feel its the new version of half of the imperial assault game (skirmish rather than campaign)
It’s an odd release and deffo going to upset opinion , I do feel it’s a slap in the face of exsisting legions fans … but those who are only into the hero side might like it … personally I prefer the legion side with combined arms
Another scale? Ugh. They should have kept with the Legion scale and did this game.
why is it called Shatterpoint if Mace Windu isn’t in the box?
Because someone threw a rock. Now Windu is shattered…
…I’ll see myself out.
So, Marvel Crises Protocol — the Star Wars Edition.
did they forget that Imperial Assault is or rather was the Star Wars skirmish game?!?
I don’t get it. AMG were the good guys that cane to save Star Wars Legion… the so called “models company” in front of the “gaming company” unable to give good model kits that FFg was.Some were afraid they coud convert legion to crisis protocol… and they are now right, because not only they have converted legion to crisis protocol models, they even makw a change in scale… we can now completely forget about legion… What have they dne to mend legion then??? Not a single release for imperials or rebels but loose heroes and new terrain! Perhaps they consider an army “done” with just one troop option…
Those minis look terrible. Okay, the Clone Troopers look good but Obi Wan and Grievous look awful. They’re spindly and look easy to break. Plus 40mm Star Wars minis as well as Legion? It’ll likely sell but I am not happy about this announcement. Why not do KotOR era instead? Surely that would have considerable interest rather than buying the same Characters again but slightly bigger.
They can’t just do KotOR because they feel like it. They can only do characters approved by Disney. Just because you have rights to an IP doesn’t mean you have rights to everything.
Second, the brilliance of marketing is getting you to buy something you do not need or buy the same thing more than once. The is AMG MCP: Star Wars Edition.
So it’ll be equally expensive
maybe even worse because Star Wars Tax
Probably more so. Let’s face it MCP is 40quid for two models. I’m not interested in paying that for Star Wars figures when Legion is a really good game as it is.
First, yeah you’re probably right about their needing approval to cover periods outside the new canon. It’s just a wishlist I would like to see.
Second, nobody “needs” toy soldiers. We buy them because we want/like them. But personally, I am not interested in this and I fear that it will slow the Star Wars: Legion releases.
AMG don’t really have a lot of Legion coverage other than odd release post of social media. Their website is shockingly absent of updates and product info compared to the FFG website, before the Dark Times. Before AMG ?
If the rule system is worth it, you could pull an Inq28 on it and just use your Legion minis. So… Shat28…?
StWa28? Sounds like a war prisoner camp.
If the ruleset is shit, it might feel like one too.
I’ve been really keen to get some Star Wars mini’s for years, and Star Trek and halo, the list goes on.
This scale jumping stops me buying them, I am firmly in 25-28mm scaling for my whole collection. Or I am 6mm for epic etc. I know I am not alone. Gale force 9 released the Aliens kits in true 28mm, I snaffled them up like a pig who found an unattended cheese cake. There is no cheesecake left. Surely if these other companies did the same they would be catering to the mass market they desire, not only of those who will buy their miniatures in bucket loads for madsssssive games like any salesman wants. But also that other side of the market who want to pick stuff up to add to their collections and share in the fun of the bucket loaders?
Finally, I have to admit that I am imagining myself buying only a couple squads in true 28mm but I am very dangerously likely to go for armies of the stuff if it’s in true 28 scale. Otherwise I’m not doing it.
So that feeds back into why are they scale jumping? These companies are not dim so I must be missing something?
I’d find it interesting to know how gale force 9 did on sales compared to others brands who did not stick to majority scale. Did GF9 not make as much as they could have done?
Taken out of context Star Wars Crisis Protocol, great ticks many of my boxes. I have no interest in the MCU, but I gather MCP is a good game. The smaller game size means less of a time requirement to get models onto the table which I appreciate as I don’t have much spare time. The potential – lets emphasise potential until we see things – for characters is massive. Less interested in Jedi and more Republic Commandos and other SF teams taking each other on. That might or might not work.
In context – it shows just how much of a one trick pony AMG is and a pretty inexperienced one at that even after a few years. The 10 minute announcement video is well worth watching and revealing too. If Shatterpoint has been in development for 3-years and that shouldn’t really be a surprise, everything was gearing up to this. Though it is likely that the pandemic might have delayed things a bit. It is hard to not think that they have little interest in or understanding of their other games.
Revealing this, out of no where, mid-week, not showing off anything really and not having a clear message to address the obvious questions and concerns shows flags up AMG’s limitations. They just unnecessarily lost income and goodwill. Sure, Shatterpoint will sell enough, but for now AMG lacks the capacity to be a bigger player.
Not a fan of the minis, they look too thin and scrawny, will probably cost an arm and a leg and does AMG/FFG real need yet another Star Wars miniatures game when they can’t really handle running what they already have. Would much rather see Imperial Assault get some love.
I’m sure this will appeal to the Marvel Crisis Protocol players though and generate them plenty of sales.
“sigh”
Time to start planning Mando’s at yet another scale…
So this one is basically skirmish system with bigger miniatures than those in Legions. We shall see how this turns out but I have feeling that they should had made it same scale as Legions so that you could use same miniatures.
Didn’t get into legion, because I didn’t feel like painting all the charactres I allready painted for imperial assault.
Won’t get into this one either, even if it wasn’t aimed at the clone wars,w hich isn’t really my period of ineterest.
Just going to lend my voice to the chorus of naysayers, here.
I’ve got nearly the full range of Rebel and Imperial forces for Legion, as well as small forces of Republic and CIS. The minis are nice, but I’ve always disliked their unnecessarily large scale. I have hundreds of 28mm figures from other ranges (including the full Imperial Assault line!), and I’ve never understood why FFG felt the need to make the Legion figures ‘special’ in this way.
Either way, the Legion range is now the most comprehensive range of SW miniatures (not counting the WotC pre-painted things, which I’ve also got a lot of but which are mostly quite ugly), and I’m glad to have them. The rules are fine, but I’ve had a lot more fun using the figures to play games with WEG’s much more flexible old D6 Miniatures Battles rules. I’ve been thinking about giving the Bolt Action conversion a try, as well!
But Shatterpoint… ugh. Why on earth could they not simply make the miniatures cross-compatible with Legion?
The thing I’ve always most wanted out of a Star Wars miniatures game is a set of rules as flexible as those of GW’s Middle-earth SGB—which can be used to run everything from Weathertop (Strider and the four hobbits vs. five Ringwraiths) to the Siege of Helm’s Deep or the Battle of the Pelennor Fields.
I want a Star Wars tabletop game that lets me recreate the rescue of Princess Leia from the Death Star (or the attempted rescue of Luminara Unduli from Stygeon Prime) as easily as the Battles of Scarif, Hoth, or Endor. I don’t want three different games in different scales, each with narrowly-focused and restrictive card-based force-selection.
I can’t agree more with you. My thoughts exactly.
I also loved WEG miniatures battles, and still think it was WAY better than this board game with minis that is legion. I wanted legion to be different, have more troops choices and less heroes and villains… or simply make a modular system able to adapt to situations. More like Middle Earth strategy Battles, as you said.
My only hope is that since they already have a system where heroes and villains matter, they make legion what it should have been from day one: clash of TROOPS, vehicles, artillery… custom minis, alien options, speeeders… why do speeder bikes ALWAYS have to have a scout trooper? Why not give us a speeder bike model with a snowtrooper? and Why does the repeating blaster have to have a snowtrooper MANDATORY? Even in Star Wars Imperial Assault we had a repeating blaster with a scout trooper! Is it really that hard to make a sprue with two or three options? Or even sell different models for the same unit? (cannons, vehicles or artillery can be manned by stormtroopers, scout troopers, army troopers, naval troopers, snowtroopers…)
And, as nice as they are, why make more armies (scum) when the armies you already have are lacking a lot of options???
And why make another game when you sadly don’t have enough new content for the ones you already had…
Finally… Is it really needed to make such an enormous amount of named heroes?? Do they really think that named models sell better? Don’t they see that units of troops are selling obviously better because when you got multipart plastic kits you can buy four boxes of the same sprues without getting bored of the same minis???
Please AMG look at Warlord Games and their model range of multipart plastic kits, perhaps Disney wouldn’t allow that kind of product?
Lemmeattit. LEMMMEEEEATTTITTT!!!!!
so is this Atomic Mass finally admitting that they’re killing off SW Legion?? I’ve seen little to no information on that game in weeks and I can’t find anything on their website either, if it is then it’s a major kick in the crotch as I liked that game and was excited to see it develop and expand.
Edit: just clicked the AMG link at the top of the article and found what I thought was their new star wars section, only to realise it’s more of a document hub and not a very in-depth one at that, disappointing…
They are very nice and hopefully will be able to get them easier than legion stuff.
But is this the deathnail for Legion?
I don’t understand a lot of the negative comments here.
MCP has been well received, they have the SW licence, so it makes sense to make a similar game with SW.
The minis are different because they want to sell a new product and they want to base it on the clone wars animation instead of the films, at a scale appropriate for the game.
I don’t think it has anything to do with Legion. It’s a different game, it just happens to also be star wars. I certainly don’t expect it to replace Legion.
And if you want to use the legion minis for this new game, no-one’s going to come round your house and stop you.
If you’re a star wars fan, why would you not want more star wars games?
Perhaps (and of course I am giving my opinion here) it is a matter of AMG not showing enough resources or not being very inclined to support Star wars games from FFG inheritance, compared with the great quantity of resources and support that MCP receives.
You only need to see the total of products Atomic Mass Games have done in the last two years, since November 17, 2020, when they were given Star wars…
Star Wars X-Wing: I think Fury of The First Order Squadron Pack (2021), was the first X-Wing product to read ATOMIC MASS GAMES in the box (NOT meaning they did it!! a lot of products were already developed by FFG!) Since then, they have sent to stores… 10 X-wing products… and most of them had not any new sculpts. 10 expansions in two years.
Star Wars Armada: Well, ahem…
Star wars Legion: Since the truck (already FFG product) they have done two new armies. The total of products (including reboxings of older units and products boxed on packs that contain the same sculpts and rules!) is 12. Less than one new product every two months…
Marvel Crisis protocol: Only in 2021 they did 21 expansions. On 2022 they have released 18 MCP products. So almost 40 expansions for just ONE game compared to 22 expansions for the previous THREE Star Wars games.
So PERHAPS we can be worried because, as an Imperial and Rebel player of Star Wars legion, I have been waiting for two years without NOT A SINGLE NEW PRODUCT for my armies… and they only had four armies when they took the game.
With that in mind, ANOTHER game on the horizon (another “prefered” system, because it is their child, not the inheritance of another company) can mean that Star wars legion support will for sure get even worst. In two years not a single rebel product? A piece of terrain with a broken X-Wing for 90 credits? Ewoks? That’s the future of my imperial and rebel army…?
And they pretend that now I dig my money in yet another Star wars product with the price of MCP or worse??
No point buying a game that will not just be dropped in four years, but won’t release the less popular miniatures you’d like. And if you won’t play the game, then why buy a game? I bought the baby yoda (: action figures I wanted on Amazon at a good price, and didn’t even have to paint them! 😀
*adds generic off-brand SW legos robots to Amazon cart*