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Power Up New Walkers & Tanks For DUST 1947
August 17, 2016 by brennon
DUST Models have added some more Walkers and Tanks to their webstore for both the SSU and the Axis. We'll kick things off by looking at the rumbling tanks of the SSU...
SSU Steel & Tracks
Leading the way for the SSU you have Aleksandr Vasilevsky which is a Heavy Tesla Tank for blasting away your foes.
Named after the supreme leader this is a brutal piece of technology and with two Tesla Cannons focused in on the same target it is likely to blast through armour with ease.
Following on from that we have another tank in the form of Sergei Shtemenko.
Forget the need for fancy tesla technology. This tank just rolls in with a bloomin' big gun that blasts holes in the enemy ranks and armour. I mean seriously, look at the size of that gun.
Trudging into battle on 'foot' we have the Steel Lighting Squad.
Armed with the new Steel Guard armour and equipped with some of the heaviest weapons available to the Axis they are wrecking machines in their own right.
Axis Armour
Now we move onto the German walkers that are going to be clanking into battle. Leading the way we have the Konigslothar.
I don't think I need to tell you much more about this particular walker do I? Aim those big rockets and unleash dozens of them at both dug in infantry and armour alike.
Following on from this we have the slightly smaller Jagdloki.
Here we have a good anti-aircraft unit that could be used to protect your allies from attack. It's always useful to have something that can spit explosive death into the air.
Finally we have the Hermann which is just as effective against infantry and armour with its twin lasers.
The design of the Axis Walkers has always been one of the best things about DUST. I love the way they have designed the legs, giving them an almost futuristic look, and the weapons just look devastating.
What do you think of the range?
"The design of the Axis Walkers has always been one of the best things about DUST..."
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I always like to see what is worth scratch building or converting. Can’t see me purchasing them though unless someone is offloading stuff cheap.
They took my cash and went /ignore on sending my minis, absolutely no way im buying anything from DS.
Not only that but these “new” models are some of the exact ones on the kickstarter….
The company behind the KS, Battlefront, has finally cleared Wave 3 items to ship. You should get all of your stuff soon.
Those do look really good but last one does not seem that practical as it has pilot exposed.
Hes a german KS backer
If it makes you feel better, even the fully armored Herman (single laser version) is pretty much killed in a single shot anyways. So the pilot might as well be more comfortable and able to bail out easier.
they look good love the tanks a definite IS variant.
Same here, DUST Studios cheated me out of my money so I am not buying the stuff that was promised repackaged.
Again, it was a company dispute between Battlefront and Dust as companies, which has since been resolved. Wave 3 of KS items are set to ship. I don’t blame you for not wanting to buy KS stuff, but hopefully the game is out of the woods with Dust wrapping up and closing out all business relationships with Battlefront.
Trying to not be snarky but where are you getting this information? It has been over 8 months since the last communication saying everything was done and going to production and that would take 3 months. Shipping does not take 5 months.
DUST Studios produced the items and instead of fulfilling their obligations tothe kickstarter backers sold the items themselves.
That’s not true. We didn’t sell anything that was meant to the backers, as we explained again and again on our Facebook page and groups.
This link will help you get better information :
https://www.facebook.com/groups/706125862831856/permalink/912295842214856/?comment_id=925897147521392&ref=notif¬if_t=group_comment_follow¬if_id=1471525563235156
You can also write Battlefront who were in charge of the whole Kickstarter (as we don’t have any access to the KS project page).
Nice, another lie by DS. Or is it just another “misunderstandig” like your last one?
Your Buddy Paolo stated on the 29.07.2016 in the Babylon KS FAQ Facebook Group that “after the agreement about wave 3 was reached we finally received that too :-)”.
I am sorry but i think that you guys are just pathetic and i am fed up with the constant lies or halftruth by your company.
Aiwass : I think that your anger (legitimate) obscures your ability to read.
In the latest update we were mentioning that BF was to pick up the last wave they ordered from us. And Paolo just answered today that he was going to check in the factory what was the status of that last shipment.
I hope it helps.
So you didn’t sell or put up for sale the first 1000 or so Sisters of Demolition that were part of the Kickstarter? http://www.dustgame.com/products_d.php?sid=77&id=606
See that is part of the Kickstarter and you are selling it on your website and not sending them out to backers.
@ghent99 : No we sold some that we produced after. It makes sense to sell the minis we asked a KS for.
We are not in charge of sending to backers, just producing for the KS. We don’t even have a complete list of the backers and, as said, no access to the KS page.
Interesting, please take a look for yourself: https://www.facebook.com/groups/706125862831856/permalink/912281308882976/
See the Comments from Paolo himself at 10:22 and 10:24 were he stated that DS has a list of the Backers. But maybe i misread the two comments. Silly me.
@aiwass that link has Paolo clearly stating they have the list of KS backers. (AS AN ASIDE BF did run a retailer program linked to the KS but not through it, to try and get Dust more represented in stores – i remember as it was pretty innovative thinking back then to try and get stores involved)
🙂
Clearly it had PP in the KS presentation vid
I am still waiting on some of my Dust KS pledge. I watched the Konflict ’47 videos with interest as they allow more use of conventional WW2 troops and vehicles as far as I can see.
I am in no rush to spend anything on Dust until I have everything I paid for but Warlord could be seeing some trade 🙂
I do like the Dust stuff but I’m just involved in to many game systems at the moment.
I do find it interesting how much damage they did to their brand going through Kickstarter. If it was my business I would of bitten the bullet and fulfilled all the pledges just to save face.
I don’t think there would be enough room in the fighting compartment in the Sergei Schtmenko for the recoil of that gun. Probably would also have to use two piece ammunition. I wouldn’t want to lift those shells if they were one piece.
And by the looks of it there’s only enough room to store two shells plus powder. I guess it could be the Soviet version of the Sturmtiger.
This game has to much drama attached to it for my liking. Don’t blame the backers though for all the crap they had to deal with.
Dust models are nice but they haven’t made anything “new” in ages. Everything is just recycled from the KS which is fine but I wish they’d stop pretending it is new stuff. $70 for the primed version of one of them is a bit steep. The major issue I have with buying direct from them is that their shipping model is broken on their site. There’s no shipping discount unless you spend over $250, otherwise everything is added at the same as if you only bought one thing.
We are sorry if you think we pretend it is new. It is actually new for a lot of people who didn’t get into the KS and don’t have access to these products. And the purpose of the KS was to allow these releases that were postponed by the dissolution of our relationship with our partner on the KS.
I don’t think that i will ever büx anything by DS again. Paolo is lying again and again. I think This Comment from the KS sum it up pretty good: Exactly. Paolo said this new agreement is about BF not selling to third parties. But why should no one trust his explanation. I tell you: 1. He brings up this agreement after the PR guy of DS says several times the stuff is shipped. How can this happen for weeks? 2. He brings up this agreements after seven month of production and the agreement before. So why did they wait… Read more »
We are really sorry and we understand your disapointment.
These are the avatars of a dissolution of a partnership in the middle of a project as important as Babylon. It gets messy. Hopefully, it should be over soon and we hope you will reconsider your opinion about Paolo and our team.
The reason it got messy was that Paolo didn’t acted professional and tried to get a solution with bf in the background. Instead he started mudslinging and tried to get the Backers on his side to set bf under pressure ( operation broken tool anyone?).
BF are far from flawless but at least they are able to admit that they made errors.
Per agreement signed at the request of Battlefront, Dust Studio, DUST USA and their employees are not allowed to comment on anything pertaining to the agreement(s) and their negociations.
Then why in one post are you saying that BF was completely in charge of the KS and in the next you say that DS and BF were partners in the KS. It seems to change depending on what you are trying to say. Maybe just maybe you need to stop with the double speak.
@Ghent99 : Because we were partners. And because Dust Studio was never in charge of the KS page nor the fulfillment of the KS pledges. We don’t have a complete list of backers, we just produced what was asked from us by BF. That was the system since the beginning. We did a lot of things wrong. And we could have managed the end of the relationship with BF better. But we just make what customers are paying for. And our customer sent us lists that we produced and they were supposed to ship. When we found out that some… Read more »
Umm again with the double speak. From @aiwass: Interesting, please take a look for yourself: https://www.facebook.com/groups/706125862831856/permalink/912281308882976/ See the Comments from Paolo himself at 10:22 and 10:24 were he stated that DS has a list of the Backers. But maybe i misread the two comments. Silly me. – See more at: http://www.beastsofwar.com/dust-tactics/power-walkers-tanks-dust-1947/#comment-294823 From @warzan: @aiwass that link has Paolo clearly stating they have the list of KS backers. (AS AN ASIDE BF did run a retailer program linked to the KS but not through it, to try and get Dust more represented in stores – i remember as it was pretty… Read more »
Beasts of war really shouldn’t help this company with advertisement. The kickstarter is two Yeats late now and the new rules are broken beyond repair for gridless play. Paolo wants a boardgame. The have that now with wonky rules. I would take a look at Konflikt 47 instead. Another thing is that Dust had no really new designs since years. Just minor changes to old minis.
@amanwing, this is not an advertisement. This is part of the news feed about what is going on in the industry.
Plus I know quite a few people who enjoy the game and wan’t to continue to do so (including myself). As such I don’t think anyone has the right to say what other people should see on the internet in regards to their hobby.
Different strokes for different folks.
I am sorry but i have to disagree. The behavior DS has showed again and again is more than enough. I have the same opinion as amanwing and this is why i will quit my backstage account. i won’t support any company which gives Dust Studio a platfrom for advertisement.
Sorry.
I understand the sentiment, but you do realise we equally give you the platform to hold companies to account?
Would you prefer it was all buried and you didn’t have that option?
We just report on whats happening, we give you the platform to pass comment. In this instance you are shooting the messenger.
Sure I write a thoughtful response and you beat me to the punch. 🙂
i understand your sentiment but i see this a little different. i would prefer that nobody gives Dust Studio any room or a platform for their product till they wake up and get on the “right track”. But everybody is free to do so. i don’t like to spend my time writing comments about Dust Studios News and state why they are so bad in my eyes and should be supported. But i think this a must after i have seen how they behave and there shouldn’t be any “neutral” news. Neutral News is a form of advertisment. And so… Read more »
@aiwass I understand your decision andvsupport that, but you have replied with a number of comments in this post and even have a Dust staffer replying directly to you.
We work hard to provide a nutral platform here and empower our community members.
I personally think its a thing worth protecting.
I know that you Guys work hard and have always appreciated that. That’s the sole reason that i have paid for my Backstager even when i don’t use the Backstager Stuff for month as i have no time to do so. I understand your sentiment but as i have already stated i don’t won’t to waste my time and comment on everything DS but i won’t tolerate their behaivor. Esp. after the last month and some of Paolo’s statments on the KS FAQ FB Group. There is a long list but this was the last drop. I left the Offical… Read more »
Actually I have to agree with @lloyd about this being an article about products that are for sale in this industry. The great thing about Beasts of War is that they allow us to make our statements about the Babylon Kickstarter and DUST Studios, except in some forum moderators that don’t like the truth this of course has nothing to do with BoW. There are plenty of people that enjoy DUST and want to continue to play that game. There are some people that wanted to play DUST and get into the hobby because it looked like fun that are… Read more »
@aiwass, sorry you feel that way. I was coming into reply to you but both @Warzan and @ghent99 have both nailed what I was going to say already.
The company is toxic. I was really looking to get in to Dust before starting back in to gaming with F.O.W and BA but I’m happy I didn’t
I didn’t back the KS and I haven’t stopped playing Dust or buying the models. I played both systems and will continue to do so in the Future and to everyone’s shock and horror I will mix in models from both companies as my gaming taste suit me. I play with positive people that like to have fun and Dust is a LOT of fun. I’m hoping all the KS backers get your models soon so that I can stop reading about how much you hate people that are trying to bring you a fun gaming experience.
they are trying so hard im feeling ashamed of my previous comments
Is that sarcasm? 😉
@dustusa I am going to give you a bit of free marketing advice. This is usually something I would spend a few weeks putting together and charge a few thousand dollars but I will keep it really simple and not add in all the back up info. Stop responding and don’t get involved unless you are completely sure that you are making a statement that is 100% accurate. This isn’t the pre-internet world where people couldn’t pick apart half truths, be they honest mistakes or duplicitous statements. There is a difference when you have control of message and can contain… Read more »
@Ghent99 You’re right. I already gave the link to get answers. Any other comment on that is just rehashing and calling for mistakes that will be misconstrued for dishonesty. Thanks for the advice. I take everything too much at heart. 🙂
Hi, some of you might recognize me from the dust forums or babylon kickstarter but i finally made a BoW account (long time reader and fan though!). While i agree that it is bows job to cover ANY wargaming related issue, i also can’t help to think that the “burned” backers (like myself) should not “just let it go”. So while i do not care for any more drama around this whole thing, i applaud everyone who (in a respectful manner) reminds people every time dust comes up that they have not delivered on their promises,neither bf nor ds! And… Read more »
Welcome aboard (officially lol) @ratata im glad you took the time to sign up 🙂
Guys, to be honest this DUST game started off with FFG then it when to Battlefront now its with someone else and the rule book even has the guys name on it(Really) I dont think no one can get this right. You are milking a cash cow which really should have given up the ghost years ago. NO one is interested anymore. Move on and play Konflikt’47.
@hawker2000
Whilst similar DUST and K47 are distinctly different games and, are not the only entries in the weird war genre. Not playing DUST does not mean means someone should just goto K47. For wierd war gaming there are also the Victorian/Western variants that people may wish to play instead.