Cult Of Games XLBS: Avoiding Hobby FOMO!
February 6, 2022 by avernos
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Happy Sunday!
Kickstarter cured me of the FOMO disease. I backed Conan (still unpainted, never played), Bloodrage (fully painted, played several times but not in last 5 years), ASOIAF (fully painted, played once), Rising Sun (unpainted, never played), Massive Darkness 1 (painted base campaign played once), Zombicide Black Plague (fully painted, base campaign played once), Soloman Kane (unpainted, never played), Mythic Pantheon (unpainted, played once), Joan of Arc (unpainted, never played), Mantic Warpath (bought 3 armies, painted bits of all 3 but for other games, never played Warpath), Forged in battle Ancients and Dark Ages (bought 6 armies, none painted, never played), Hate (unpainted and never played). If I’d bought half as many I probably could have used the money saved to have the ones I did buy professionally painted.
I have a an even bigger pile of unpainted and unused GW pile. Thankfully I am slowly working my way through this crap. I’m up to somewhere around 1999. That’s why I’m still painting Mordheim stuff.
Gerry was on the money with a campaign as a limiter. It also stops you from getting interested in other games, genres and crap like that.
I feel your regrets and have a similar pile, I tend to find persuading others to play some of the games is the issue. So now for me a decent SOLO mode is my filter and if I do go for it probably just the core box with maybe an add-on or two, never the all-in.
Certain companies have a tendency to rush out a product that then needs more than an FAQ to fix, I tend to look less longingly at their projects too.
As for covering the grey, I tell myself it’s just a board game and typically just prime and zenith with a few highlights for main characters unless I really like the models (e.g. KDM).
Good that you’re powering through the pile of potential!
Very similar to my list of KS games, however none of mine are painted or even played, except Zombicide Green Horde which I played once with my Godson and I sold ASOIAF, MBP and Bloodrage! This last week I received 3 more deliveries Solomon Kane wave 2 expansions (Wave 1 is still shrink wrapped) , Joan of Arc 1.5 and Massive Darkness 2! In total somewhere over 40 kgs of gaming stuff I know wont get played or anywhere near painted! I still have 4 more KS to come all from late 2020 and early 21 but I’m done with the big KS’s now and I’m trying to get through my lead backlog, however I’m only up to 1985 ish!
Happy Sunday,
enjoy the xlbs and the greatest movie ever made
Happy Sunday, I confirm that neither of my death korps projects have received a golden but but ding, before this week. The. Bits for the dune raider was only delivered on Saturday.
I am vindicated
the previous golden butt butt dings were for, Cursed city, plague toads and unfathomAaaaaughibbrgubugbugrguburgle!
“HE TASK ME AND I SHALL HAVE HIM! I’ll chase him ’round the moons of Nibia and ’round the Antares Maelstrom and ’round perdition’s flames before I give him up!”
HAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!! FOMO…. I am in the fortunate position to never having been affected by FOMO and likewise marketing shenannigans. I only buy what I need and can assemble and paint within the next 4-6 weeks, and I only buy new minis once I’m running out of stuff to paint. When something becomes unavailable, I don’t care. If a company’s sales model is based on stuff being limited, not available after a first run or only available at a certain date, I don’t buy anything from them.
Games Workshop is – without hyperbole – predatory in their sales and marketing schemes. Their sales and marketing strategies are insidiously and consistently geared towards targeting people with impulse control problems, of which there are statistically more among nerds than among the general population. This in conjunction with their delusional pricing is what makes GW a truly vile and predatory company, something which should be expelled from our hobby culture and burned to the ground, before their behaviour is getting copied by other gaming and miniatures companies. The Warhammer IPs would survive the utter destruction of GW, and in someone else’s hands, they and their fans would be treated better. So here it is: If you are a fan of anything Warhammer, you should destroy Games Workshop, completely and without mercy. Stop buying ANYTHING from them and completely tank their stock value, until they go down. This would in the end force them to sell their IPs to someone else.
the warhammer IP in someone elses’s hands would result in exactly the same shenanigans.
why ?
Because *this* is what businesses do.
They are not our friends.
They will use every trick in the book to tempt us into buying stuff we don’t need at prices we can barely afford.
Any company that would run it like you claim they should would be dead and buried by a competitor who didn’t give a damn.
No, there is a line where things become predatory. But it can only be seen when you take of the simplicistic and reductive glasses of “that’s what businesses do”. You have basically given up, and therefore are a part of the problem.
I haven’t given up.
I simply don’t care that companies do things that are to their benefit at practically any cost.
I don’t have the time to research which few companies that haven’t crossed the thin line between ‘normal’ and ‘predator’ yet, because that line will be crossed eventually anyway.
I can’t be bothered to check if a company is telling the truth when they are trying to appeal to my ethics/morals when they are about to fail, because so many of them have told lies that I simply assume they aren’t telling the truth by default.
There’s a never ending list of things that companies do that are either morally or ethically wrong which practically means I might as well quit the hobby and do nothing if I wanted to take the moral high ground on everything related to it.
So if a company produces something that I like then I will buy it when and if it is available.
If it’s not then it’s not and I will find something else that suits my needs.
I’m not going to tell others that they should or shouldn’t buy stuff from them, because it might not be available in the future.
We shouldn’t focus on what may or may not be available.
We should learn to improvise with whatever is available.
As such I only worry about two things :
– the fact that not a single company within this hobby understands what ‘scale’ is and how to use it consistently (1:56 is a scale, 28 mm is not)
– the fact that not a single paint company uses RAL numbers to identify paints
Happy Sunday, I missed club today, but got all the tracks, tires, and varnishing.
I’ve also got all the infantry stripped.
I think GW has really been pushing that FOMO stuff, with their no discount bundles, which makes no sense.
I’ve never been one for buying out of fear of missing out. I never have enough money to do that kind of thing.
Anytime you see… the words ‘Stretch Goals’, ‘Kickstarter Exclusive’, ‘Limited Edition’, ‘Not Going To Retail’… walk away…
It’s not the zombies that frighten me it’s the Triffids 😱
I got up extra early today to watch this episode in case you took it down after a couple of hours
We like to keep you on your toes…and in the exclusive club
@Ben you are more than welcome to hide with us in the zombie apocalypse, you’ll be fine, honest….
I can feel the knife at my back…
Maybe you need to face facts that in the event of the Zombie Apocalypse are you just destined maybe to be one of the red shirts?
I think you speaketh the truth
Happy Sunday!
@johnlyons we here have an Iron Bull arena: https://ironbull.hr/?lang=en
Inceptors smoke is a 3D print: https://deadlyprintstudio.com/producto/inceptors-backpack-smoke-bundle/
Gerry this could be your answer for cactus ? just paint them up in greens.
oh hey that looks pretty damn cool!
It’s really fun!
XLbs suggestion – Gerry rigs a ship while John assembles that rubber track!
I did the tank paintball for my stag do- recommended but pricey
They only bought the 432’s for £5-6k fully mot’d. I tried to convince the missus it would work as a family vehicle (if you can fit 8 squaddies and kit in the back, a newborn, dog her and all the accessories would be no bother … she said no)
Back when 432’s were cheap enough not to make you cringe. I miss those days
Happy Sunday everyone.
@avernos I believe the other Cowboys in Spaaaaace series around the same time as Bravestarr was Galaxy Rangers. Technically you can also lump in Silverhawks as they had a Cowboy on the team and were spacecops. The late 80s & early 90s were a heady time 🙂
I went through the Kickstarter fomo at first as well. Then Mythic Battles cured me when a truck turned up with a mountain of stuff I’d never use and had nowhere to store. So I sold it on and learned a lesson.
I still get deal heat occasionally but I at least think about it before going crazy…
There are some legitimate fomo scenarios for me though. Star Wars Legion. If you want it in the same century it’s released you need to jump on the first wave. I’m convinced it’s going away entirely before long as well, but that may be the fomo speaking…
And GW card packs for Necromunda etc. Yes you can get them later but you’re looking at £40+ on eBay as opposed to a tenner on release.
FOMO… definitely something we all get the dopamine kick out of that is the reason behind the retail therapy. We search for the next greatest thing. It extends to anything you can think of from minis, jobs and even relationships. Here in the hobby I’d say that the minis agnostic systems for tiny fighting men will really be the salvation of our sanity. We ma joke about having little to none of that but perhaps subconsciously we are a perceptive lot that game developers have built these options to be available. Its not for the grand ideal of being eco-friendly and not buying things that create more waste, its a literal anti-hoarding measure that keeps down the number of unplayed/unloved armies that sit on shelves.
Why spend the time and money on things that aren’t going to be used? Why keep around things that don’t get attention? Why not change the ideas we have on what we have in thinking in lateral directions? Make rulesets changes where we’d like to take our collections, as was pointed out, in order to keep having fun. Reduce/Reuse/Recycle (all without the necromancy) to develop something notable. Bringing kitbashing back as a tought, there’s not reason why that can’t still be a thing when making mods to current models or build entrely new ones. You can’t miss out if what you’ve done is unique. Its honestly a juxtaposition of the FOMO when others don’t have what you just created.
I also put forth again the naming convention of PoOP and TERDs.. Pile of Overwhelming Potential and Time Exhausting Recreational Distractions. Get your PoOP in order. Sort out what TERDs you’re going to mess with or let sit.
Jack bauer hour 25: It’s just him passed out on a toilet with a half eaten burger in his hands.
ever seen him dive into a christmas tree?
I have come to a point that if a I see something new and it looks really, really good and it does indeed itch to get it. I look around me see what I have, what I haven’t played yet and I can say, no I don’t need that, I won’t miss out as I probably am not going to play it or miss on what I have. This is mostly thanks to some big kickstarter projects I have done.
What I sometimes do, is share it with friends that might be interested and don’t follow the new things that come out but I am careful not to share it with those that jump on all the new things that come out so that they don’t overload themselves. Not that it matter much as they have seen it themselves and jumped on it anyway and then have regrets that they jumped on it.
The ‘problem’ with not picking up a game/ruleset at release is that if too few people do it then the rules will be gone.
Someone has to suffer and take one for the team as it were.
If you’ve got at least one game that you like playing then you can afford to wait.
But if no one gives in to it and there isn’t enough momentum to kickstart a community then those games will die.
So if you do think that a game needs a chance then you have to give in.
The trick is to know when … although in theory you could look at a kickstarter and not buy into it if it has reached its goal, because that itself should be proof that the game has a chance to survive.
OTOH … only a few games are big enough to get that kind of momentum going. The vast majority is doomed to die.
WWX being one example … it may have gotten a bit of momentum, due to Global Gunslinger League and the FOMO that created.
However unless that community (and its associated company) is sufficiently active then it will be forgotten by next year. 40k/AoS (and everything else in the top 3) will still be around …
Had the pleasure of seeing the Tiger 2 way back. Absolute beast of a tank.
It’s the XLBS Show.
The tank looks fantastic John.
Gerry is like Hagrid he’s half scandawegen troll ???
I was a hobby butterfly jumping from one new shiny to the next. In recent years I’ve started to cut back on what games I play and the rules I use. I’ve decided to play rules I enjoy even if they’re an old set.