Weekender: WIN Kings Of War Starter Sets + Harry Potter & Marvel Show And Tell
October 19, 2019 by crew
We're delving into a brand spanking new Weekender where we're looking at some cool goodies that we've picked up this week and delving into the news from the week too.
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As always we want to hear more about what you think concerning all of the things we're discussing today. So, make sure to get your thoughts into the comments.
WIN 1 Of 2 Kings Of War Third Edition Starter Sets
We have some goodies up for grabs this week from Mantic Games. As well as commenting on content on Kings Of War Third Edition this week to get your hands on the new Two-Player Starter Set we also have TWO to give away as part of this show too.
Gerry has had a lot of fun playing this game and we'd love to know what armies you're looking to play as when the Third Edition properly launches.
Show & Tell - Harry Potter & Marvel
As well as that we're also talking two sets which have really captured our attention this week. Warren is very enamoured by the new Chamber Of Secrets expansion from Knight Models for their Harry Potter Miniature Adventure Game.
Gerry, on the other hand, is looking at Atomic Mass Games' new game, Marvel: Crisis Protocol, which we unboxed this week. Check out that video HERE and Ben's preview of the rules HERE. We're very excited to take this to the tabletop and build Metro...errr...New York for a proper heroic royal rumble.
News
We're looking at a few stories from this week...
- Imperial Fists & Salamanders - Come and check out new releases for the Primaris Space Marines
- Boney Spellcasters - What do you make of this character for the Ossiarch Bonereapers?
- Mighty Knights - Are you going to be snapping up this new Knight-Questor model?
- Eberron Calling - Adventure off into a new world with a selection of models and accessories for D&D
What do you make of the news we've been exploring?
Kickstarter
We're looking at two different Kickstarter options for you this week...
- Fighting Fantasy Legends - Come and explore this range of bespoke models from Atlantis
- Delta One Zero - Play out your Call Of Duty clashes on the tabletop from Bonza Games
Which of these projects do you reckon you'd back given the chance?
Have a great weekend!
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******It’s the Weekender!******
The weekend has returned again and so too the OTT Crew.
Time to see what’s the latest in the Gaming Hobby World.
Who’s excited for Kings of War Third Edition? I know I ordered my rulebook!
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@warzan I loved hearing your story of your daughter getting into D&D. I remember when my daughter first got interested in D&D and then played her first proper game! Golden memories to be sure! I hope you have thousands of other memories to come.
I’m looking forward to OTT now covering ‘Knight Models: Harry Potter Miniature Adventure Game’. I use the minis for an RPG that we play in our area. I’d love to see a play through of the game as presented by Knight MOdels.
Love the message and I’m sure Warren would agree
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I’m really happy mantic has kept updating kings of war and that its growing in popularity, with the loss of warhammer fantasy to age of sigmar it’s been hard to find people to play games with.
happy weekend to all
Happy Weekend!!!
I have to say I’m one of the people completely unimpressed by the Ossiarch faction. I am curious about Eberron as an adventuring world though!!
Love hearing about Warzans time he spends with his kids, I have the same special gaming bond with my two Grandchildren and I wouldn’t chance it for anything.
Soooooo…….My main 40k army is Imperial Fists. Thems my boyz!
In the past, I’ve bought anything that pertains to them. But now I’m at a point where I’m not sure if I need this new Imperial Fist book.
I have NO desire to replace my current true Space Marines with the Primaris models. SO, do I need this new book? Will it have anything for my current Imperial Firsts or is it all written for Primaris models?
I’m in a similar spot Dennis, I have a big Black Templar force, some of which have been painted 😉
After reading the description on the GW Store I was none the wiser about the BTs. The Crimson Fists were the only successor chapter mentioned.
Ash Barker of Guerrilla Miniature Games usually does video walk throughs of the GW books. I use those as input for my purchase decision making.
They generally appear on the Saturday when the pre-orders go up, so the two reviews shouldn’t be far away. The YouTube channel can be found here
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbO4Vs1vlAA9hz7Ad7IMgug/featured
@templar007 For some reason it doesn’t appear on the Video page of the channel, but is on the Home page…. Here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am-KV4O-0tc&t=10s
As expected, no Black Templars in this Supplement.
Are all the spacemarine supplements this boring ?
Never mind that if that video is correct all of them are Primaris models which kind of sucks as I’d expect a non-primaris ‘historic’ list to still be viable in the game.
OTOH … it’s like he says : every (tournament/win-at-any-cost) player is going to pick the named characters that give them the best chance to survive.
Seeing this makes me both happy and sad that none of the other factions have had sub-factions codexes (yet).
Well.…(sorry)…I know that this isn’t strictly true, but I’d consider Death Guard and Thousand Sons are supplements to the Chaos Space Marine Codex.
(Note: I haven’t read them, so my opinion is based upon not very much at all…
But hey, it’s the internet, so I don’t feel toooo bad. 😉 )
Happy weekender!
The minis in Kings of War starter is quite the leap of progress compared to the Elves I got ten+ years ago. Great to see that development!
You lads are the Lost Boys of HobbyLand. Peter Pan would be proud of you guys. However, thanks to you folks, Oathsworn has Captain Hooked my wallet (a gift for my son). Thanks a lot guys.
Do comments on discord count for competitions?
Nope
Do you get a notification when you win? Or have to check yourself on the claim page?
I can never remember what they say to do..
check the prize claim form they normally go up a week later, so next saturday will have this saturday’s winner
And how long do you get to claim if you win?
Thanks for the info!
30 days from the winner being announced.
There will be a competition section with the winners name beside it
If you have put in a claim and not got yourself a notification make sure to tap one of us and we’ll follow it up.
I have my copy on advanced order and cannot wait to get my hands on it. The new figures for the northern alliance look great.
Yeah me two. I can’t wait for it to land
Never liked Harry Potter, thought it was a load of balls. Meg and Mog and Sabrina the Teenage Witch were much better.
The Marvel game is tempting as are the Fighting Fantasy minis. Funnily enough, I started going through The Warlock of Firetop Mountain this week – no cheating either, loving it!
@robert I’ve never watched or read any Harry Potter stuff but I’m sure theres worse stuff out there. Oh look superhero rubbish I was right
Sabrina the Witch as in the tv-series with Melissa ?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115341/
Yeah that was kind of fun.
I’ve never read the Potter books and after seeing the movies I don’t feel tempted to do so, because they’re definitely aimed at kids (plus the Gandalf clone in it annoys me).
It’s the Weekend! In my case leading to a week off where I hooe to get my hobby mojo re-energised… So inspire me!
There are many interpretations of a basilisk through time. According to the Naturalis Historia of Pliny the Elder (ad 23-79), the basilisk of Cyrene is a small snake, “being not more than twelve fingers in length”, that is so venomous, it leaves a wide trail of deadly venom in its wake, and its gaze is likewise lethal.
So by Pliny’s definition the only thing wrong is the size!
Is that the same Pliny the Elder that gets quoted on QI a lot for silly things the Romans did/thought ?
I wouldn’t trust him 😉
Yes indeed. One must bear in mind that this Naturalis Historia included all kinds of what were considered real beasts and creatures but which we now consider from folklore and fable.
But that aside, it’s probably the earliest Bestiary for GMs etc..
I bought into the origional Harry potter kick starter as my wife is a Harry potter fanatic, she felt distinctly let down by the feel of the rules. So we are now looking round for a games system to use the figures with. This compared with Core space who’s rules where so good my none war gaming wife has thrown herself into it 100% and played through the whole initial campaign and is now chasing me to play through all the additional scenarios.
I have also heard that the rules aren’t great. Serviceable, but not great. I have seen a lot of people picking up the models to use for roleplaying games though and for tweaks on dungeon delving.
Anyone noticed the Elephant face on the Lloyd shot of the Bonereapers Mortisan Soulmason? I’d see two eyes, a trunk and tusks… cute ^^
Really looking forward to Kings of War 3rd Edition as are other members of my gaming community but got the FoW Campaign coming up soon and still some minis to finish first.
Marvel models look interesting. Wonder if it will be around in 2 years? Great job, Have a great weekend all.
I reckon it will. I think Atomic Mass has got a good thing going here.
Happy Weekender and congratulations to the people right now have the copy of KoW3, I am to wait unitl the second half of December to buy the mine, when the Spanish editorial plain to launch it, and wait a litle more for the uncharted empires with my finally Twilight Kin, yeahhh, I was waiting for it YEARS.
I hope all enjoy the new edition, and Long live to KoW 😉
Happy weekender lady’s & Gents.
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House Warrantus: sigil 3 Kids playing
House Justintius: sigil a cogwheel on a steak.
House Ben: sigil a Guy on a box
House LJ sigil a picture of Lloyed in a pirate hat (sigil funding ran out)
Buy The Expansion now and get sigils for House Tank, House Hobbit House, House dont Hurt us Cass and sooo many more.
Tho iam waiting more on KOW mk III then Any Aos or potter stuff, since its a good way to use all My old world fantasy stuff.
Excited to get in on KoW3. Those Northern Alliance beasties look great!
When you’ve got a big mountain of plastic already no sane person would want to add more.
Then again … I never claimed to be sane 😉
I know too little of that universe to pick a faction.
The only reason Primaris exist is to coerce players into buying new Space Marines despite already having enough. The only reason grav tanks exist is to coerce players into buying new tanks despite already having enough. At least the Primaris look good (apart from the specialist troops types) and would have sold anyways but the grav tanks look terminally… pants. Would have been much better to cast up the washing up liquid grav tanks from Rogue Trader, at least they had their own style and originality. Lore wise, mass producing new Space Marines and grav tanks is going against everything the Imperium and Space Marines were based on. Sales and marketing are everything for the new GW, they are just dying to become a Marvel rip off. Without the skills for coherent story telling or lore keeping.
Luckily we live in a multiverse, so all this stuff does not have to exist in my 40k world.
The only reason anything in 40k exists is because it sells new models to players. GW old and new never cared about consistency or ‘balance’
As for in-univeres reasons for this sort of stuff.
Stagnant tech never makes sense unless there is a good reason that everyone in-universe buys into.
Chaos is invading reality (again) so everyone had better invent new weapons and tactics or else they’re dead. Orks and Tyranids are the only ones who might not need to do so, because they’re the cockroaches of the 40k universe.
I’m really excited for 3rd edition of Kings of War. I multibased my undead, so I can start right when I get the rules. The minis in the starter set are brilliant, got Nightstalkers and Northern Alliance for Vanguard already. Hope to win the set?
As for what factions to play in 3rd… I have about 2,000 points of Undead and 1,000 points of Dwarfs actually finshed. Undead is skeleton infantry heavy, I need zombies, more ghouls, more werewolves, more Balefires…. the list is endless. Dwarfs need Brocks, Rocks, Cannons, more Shooty Guys, more infantry! Then I need to think about allies!
@warzan I came across this on drive through RPG site, a source book called Ancient Tombs for the Savage World system. it may give you some ideas for your games.
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/291833/Ancient-Tombs-SWADE?src=sub
BLOODBEAST! My favourite of the FF cover artworks. Is this the sculpt that was teased some years ago already? I was very excited about it then but thought it never came to fruition. Got to get this one.
For the Warlock of Firetop Mountain, I think I prefer the Otherworld version (now OOP unfortunately). This render here looks like Jeremy Corbyn. And he ain’t no wizard.
Loved the show again, you guys are awesome together, am really looking forward to opening, modelling and painting my nice free Kings of War game you are going to send me.
Happy Weekend to all.
I have a few friends greedily awaiting their personal orders for KoW 3rd ed,i myself have not felt the pull of KoW 3rd ( as yet ) and should it occur,Basilea will be my go to faction when my heart calls for it.Although i love both film series for HP and the MCU,much as 3rd ed KoW,neither system is calling to me at the current moment in time.
As much as i love the Imperial Fists ( Crimson Fist Successors were my 40k army of choice during 5th and 6th ed ),i don’t have the love or time for anything 40k related anymore.AoS is similarly out of the picture ( currently,may change with the Cities of Sigmar book i need to get a look at as i have a large Empire Army still in boxes ).D&D hasn’t featured around my flgc for some time now,so the new book will pass us by unhindered.
Delta One Zero is looking good,but as a diehard FF fan,my wallet is leaning towards a few figures from the Legends KS,unfortunately not one of the box sets though,they are simply beyond my wallet at this time.
The 3th edition Kings of War box looks very nice, hope to win it. Realy liked 2nd edition.
Morning… show and discord have to wait until the evening… things are to be done.
I haven’t seen the second Fantastic Beasts film yet but i’m fairly certain already that they do connect to the Harry Potter series and do serve as prequels, or rather that they do serve as part of the larger, continuous narrative of which Harry Potter is a part. Characters and events in Fantastic Beasts are in the Harry Potter series and those characters motivations in Harry Potter are developed in Fantastic Beasts, and the narrative of Fantastic Beasts is an expansion of the narrative of those characters. I’m sorry that J. K. Rowling didn’t write them as books first, and if J. K. Rowling were directing the Fantastic Beasts narrative then i wouldn’t be surprised if anyone coming new to the whole franchise could start with the Fantastic Beasts series and read straight through to Harry Potter without much of a juxtaposition.
Magic in Arda, including Middle Earth and the ‘Lord of the Rings’, is conceptually different to magic in Harry Potter. I’m recalling and summarising as best i can here but in Harry Potter magic is essentially an expression of the self, whereas in Lord of the Rings it is a manipulation of the fundamental substance and ‘music’ of the world. If you’d like to read about some of the big boys and girls letting loose with their power then i recommend the Silmarillion, wherein you’ll find …
(SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER)
… gods moving continents in acts of war. That square range of mountains around Mordor looks artificial because it is. Still, i’d agree that the magic in Harry Potter is seemingly more accessable and pleasing somehow, or at least the physical magical effects in Harry Potter are in comparison to the physical magical effects in Lord of the Rings. The subtle, manipulative, and corrupting ‘magic’ in Lord of the Rings is great, and is given further gravitas when reading the Silmarillion and other books. ‘Magic’ runs deep in Arda.
Very excited for KoW3 and Marvel Crisis Protocol has restored my superhero joy that waned after Knights Models Marvel game was discontinued.
Another great show guys. KoW 3rd edition is on my radar as well, looking forward to the extra manual with the further 10+ armies. Logging in tomorrow for XLBS!
Watching the weekenber and i agree with warren the new spacemarine gravtank is pointless
Looking forward to KOW3 and the marvel game looks interesting I’ll need to take a closer look
If I don’t win one of the new Kings of War starter set, I’m definitely buying one when it releases!
Im liking the Northern Alliance they have a GOT Wildling vibe.
great show as always
Happy Weekend everyone.
@warzan Knight Models do now do Bust for Harry Potter. https://www.knightmodels.com/en/collector-s-edition/
I like those busts and they will look great in my library on the shelf with the HP books!
Incredible episode as always, the Marvel game is the thing Im most excited for right now, though the missing of the numbers in the how to build guide was a tad annoying to hear.
I’ve seen a conversion suggestion for the silly Grim Fairytales walker where the legs are removed and replaced by ghosts looked amazing but otherwise I agree, the walking bone toilet is a step too far, very marmite. Not for me and to be honest I was sold on the army for a while
I agree with @warzan that the new primaris tank should not float. Leave that technology to the filthy xenos. But then again, floating is way better than running about on weird emu legs with ass fingers like that ossiarch dude.
First time watching a weekender. I enjoyed the banter and game reviews. I am looking forward to KOW, I have my rule book preordered. The new starte set is awesome! Regarding space marine hovering tanks. I really liked the beater and reading during the discussion of the new space marine hover tank. From my perspective, I do not like them as I think they break the genre, the theme, the story line.
Welcome aboard!
There’s trouble up t’North, hide the pigeons and guard the whippets
Awesome weekender… so want Kings of war *sigh*. Marvel Crisis Protocol looks good as well.
I so want to play some more Kings of War.
Shame that there was no actual talk about KoW, because that’s looking good. Like the best of GW, except actually GOOD:
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Looks like the wife will be putting in demands for Harry Potter and Marvel very soon, if I’ve interpreted the squeaks of excitement correctly.
I absolutely love the soul smith thing. It looks like the Crypt Keeper sitting in its armchair, on legs. What’s not to love? The shiny paintjob doesn’t help though, I think.
I also really don’t like either of the Primaris “transports”, as they still do not have a true transporter. They have a floating super heavy tank with 90 different weapons that take ages to roll for in game, and now they have a heavy floating IFV with 45 different weapons that take slightly less time to roll for. Still no true transport like a Rhino. I think it can only transport 6 or so.
Just for information, the original Land Raider, Actually called Arkan Land’s Raider, hovered. Seeing Cawl was around that time makes sense he would use the superior design.
I’m also so excited for KoW3 and Mantic have really chosen the 2 perfect factions for the starter.
Imperial Fists is probably the chapter with the most famous successor chapters, some almost more famous than the fists. Like all here I really hoped they would do them all justice in this book. Sad to hear this may not be the case.
Did you confirm what scale Crisis Protocol is? Marvel and Walking Dead mash up sounds awesome
Interesting, so I wonder if this info will change the grumpy butts that are dissing on the Grav Tank? Honestly I can’t see how a person can hate on the Grav Tank and gush over and love on the Pri’mart’ius models.
Really it’s ALL about selling more to folks that already have all they need!
Grav tanks make marines more technologically advanced whereas primaris marines just look like marines in proper scale and body proportion. I love the look of Primaris marines. The tanks on the other hand look garbage. My issues with Primaris marines aren’t their aesthetic, it’s their background being shoehorned into the universe rather than GW just having the balls to replace the range in a new scale. That’s my personal explanation of how I can like one without the other ?
But you’re right, it’s all just to sell toys at the end of the day
Already got my Salamanders ordered :). I’ve got my eye on the Fighting Fantasy Legends for a couple of the models available.
Really looking forward to Kings of war. Have never played before so not entirely sure what faction to take because they all look beautiful
Nice Harry Potter boardgame. What came to my mind seeing the spiders was a scenario in Mirkwood from The Hobbit. However, I wouldn´t get the set not just for the spiders.
Maybe there´s an army in Kings of War I can use spiders for. Yesssss. gods of fortune, make me win the KoW starter set, win, yesss, do. Or what?
@warzan i completed a project using the harry potter miniatures recently and was very impressed with the sculpts even a novice like me could make them look great
The only downside abit like @avernos hinted at, some of the models are only in bundles so they are missing out potentially on people picking up individual models just to paint. For example i paid over the odds to get ron and harry as they only come in the larger box
https://www.beastsofwar.com/project/1419855/
I’ve always been with Gerry on this one. That is no a Basalisk. May as well give a horse 2 horns and wheels and insist its a Unicorn. I understand calling it a basilisk is more dramatic than saying giant snake, and thematically a snake makes more sense.
The Basilisk in Harry Potter did ‘kill’ with a glance though so it does follow the traits of the creature even if it doesn’t look like one. I think it’s alright to have alternative takes on mythical creatures.
I agree, and I don’t think thats the first time a Basilisk has been portrayed as a snake either. Still, if we are teaching kids about this stuff through these films and books, might be nice to be closer to the “truth”
Loving the new Kings of War starter set, especially the northerners.
I have some already from the Vanguard skirmish game and they are a lovely looking faction and have a really interesting backstory
I like the models of the northern alliance.
Marvel – crisis protocoll looks great, exspected less quality and i don’t need to discuss Knight Models minis, they are awesome.
Been debating getting into Kings of War for some time. With Gerry’s 3rd edition coverage this might be the way to go.
join us, join us
Wow I love both the Harry Potter set and the Marvel Crisis Protocol!!
Once again, too many good things.. Kow3… Marvel Crisis Protocol… Some nice looking modern models… not so sure about the AOS and 40K stuff, but that’s okay.. Lol.
As for Marvel.. has anyone been really talking about the best source for appropriate scaled terrain? the game is 40mm.. so like 1:43 scale cars but “O” scale terrain is probably gonna be best?
Hmmm, Kings Of War vs Marvel: Crisis Protocol vs Infinity: Defiance (Finally has a date of Oct. 29th).
Too many choices and I already have other games. I can only pick one and I will have to sell something. Difficult choices.
Love KoW. Have ever since first edition. Got my friends hooked on historical and fantasy. It’s our go to mass combat game for historical and fantasy.
My favorite part of Kings of War is the diorama bases… while I don’t play wargames any more I still paint armies and build up rules collections. And KOW will always have a place in my heart, one of my wargaming friends passed away from cancer and I have been building a massive Abyssal Dwarf army in his memory (when I first met him I was playing 5th or 6th edition Warhammer fantasy, 1995 or 96, and he fielded a 2ed Chaos Dwarf army based on the Assyrians)… really glad that Mantic put up a video about the abyssal dwarves… also I need to work on more units for the army now…
Excited to see more on the Marvel game. Really like the team build rules.
I always wonder how they balance super hero games. I am OK with 1 hero vs waves of flunkies, but for me super hero’s abilities seem to very with plot requirements. Superman can pick up a bus or hold to tectonic plates apart with the amount of apparent effort.
Just have to suspend some disbelief I reckon. I like what they’ve done with the different heroes and balancing but I’m looking at ways to make it more cooperative.
The quality of minis in kings of war has been so good since vanguard came out…love the Nightstalkers…
Happy weekender guys! I really love the new KOW sculpts, such amazing models and look incredible with Giraldez’s paintjob
Happy Weekender
Looking forward to playing Kings of. War
I believe the spell,”Expeliarsus” is the one that makes people poot uncontrollably. Happy weekend. all!
I am still happily playing Kings of War 2nd edition so you know I’m excited for these rules to hit the shelves. Heartbreaking that with all the armies I already have waiting to play (or some even to be painted) the Northern Alliance minis have me drooling.
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Great show as always guys. Really looking forward to the Marvel game and can’t wait until they start getting more of the characters released (looking forward to Warmachine for a team up with Iron Man, I want Yondu and his magic arrow and i want Dr Strange who will hopefully have some awesome ‘mystic arts’ for magic on the table)
The Delta One Zero game looks interesting, i purchased the new Spectre operations (ver 2) book but found it a little overwhelming to get started. This game, at first look, seems like it might be a better option for playing those cinematic action scenes out on the tabletop. TBH, what i really want is a reason to buy the Black Site Studios ‘MV Australis’ ship kit and then do as many ‘at sea’ missions as i can dream up. I also really like the look of the ‘courage in combat’ Taliban forces as a good choice for a larger force opposing a smaller highly trained military force.
About Marvel Crisis Protocol and downloading the rulebook: I think Warren’s on the right track. I suspect that with a roster the size of the Marvel Universe, the rulebook will be expandable as the designers add new heroes and maybe scenarios.
But the cynic in me thinks its a ploy to get you to register online to sell your info to marketers..
I started to think who would win a fight between Gandalf and Harry Potter so I googled it. This led to a greater thought who would win a fight a between Harry Potter and Luke Skywalker Jedi Knight
Luke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5ZtDoToAz8
Well I sure hope my sons are gonna be into games! They’re only 3 years, and a month old. So still too young yet..
KoW looks good. I missed the whole of 2nd pretty much.
Marvel Comics I love, and these models are great representations of them. I like the MCU styled ones too.
Harry Potter. Now that’s my wife’s things. Could be what transfers her from board games to more table top styled board games.
We have a small Kings of War contingent that plays at my closest gaming store. I think I want to jump into this after watching Gerry smash the mantic folks.
definitely definitely do it, if you have historics or fantasy already you can throw yourself in off the bat
Justin made me feel very old… Harry Potter novels being the first he got into… they’re juvenile delinquents of fiction.
The misses loves Harry Potter and that game might be the way I get her into table top gaming
That Marvel set though. Wow! Great show as ever. Have a great weekend, guys!
The new Marvel games looks okay (even though I’m a DC fanboy) nd I am glad you did an unboxing. I’m interested to know whether they are much bigger than the Knight Models miniatures or the Batman:Gotham City Chronicles minis as I like to cross the streams from time to time.
I’m pretty sure that the Knight Models are 35mm and M:CP is 40mm
Yes, MCP is 40mm scale but to be honest I’ve seen it matched up with 35mm terrain from companies and even some heroic 28mm and it has seemed fine.
Happy weekend my peeps! I’m with you Warren. The whole Mythos about the Emperium was that it was so mired in dogma that to even think of using alien (grav) tech would be heresy punishable by death. Whole planners were purged for heresy! What the hell is a gravtank doing in an Imperial army. A new bigger, meaner, wheel grinding, tread smashing beast of a tank would have been perfect. Oh well. Some lame on the design team convinced GW otherwise. Shame…. oh yeah. And that walking Porta-Potty is goofy as hell. lol… can’t wait for tomorrow’s show. Oi! ???
Another Otterly fantastic show.
One idea you could steal for a Marvel table is painting the buildings REALLY BRIGHT COLOURS. I saw HeresyProductionz on YouTube do this and it looked AMAZING! It cuts down the reusability for modern, post-apoc, etc. but blimey it looks cool.
The Weekender is godsend when you’re in bed with a cold. Bring on the silliness!
I must admit I go onto the GW site for two main reasons one is to look at stuff I might use for Kings of War the second is to have a laugh. I have started thinking what could that be in Kings of War everytime I see any Fantasy models so much cool stuff out there and on the way soon.
happy weekend all. another great show.
i think we need a show called “let the wookiee speak!”. it’s just a show where gerry sits and lists off all the things he hates. i’d watch that!!
I thought that’s what the weekenders were for 😉
They are now!!
It’s a shame Knight Models lost the Star Wars license. Their sculpts were leagues better than those from Fantasy Flight Games.
The difference is knight models are miniature sculptors first and game designers second. Fantasy flight is the opposite so robust game pieces is more important than epic sculpts! Sad but true…
Great Weekend to All! Wish Mantic had some better US distribution, very hard to find their stuff locally.
shame, I guess you’re on the fanatics facepage, in which case you could ask Kyle if there are any closer to you. I know he’s been trying to expand Mantics sphere of influence in the US I think it’s pockets in certain areas still.
happy weekender folks.
Eberon is a great setting.
Love the Warforge miniatures look great.
Herminie turned unto the cat but Ron or Harry turned to the wife of a worker from the ministry of magic.
Oh Snap. Now it seems I have to get Marvel: crisis protokoll! AND Harry Potter to paint!
I’ve managed to watch it! Yeah me! Was painting new stuff while watching so no comments on me… except: God I’m tired…
Did I win the box yet?
a great show loved the rants about the new models coming out.
I still want those Primaris to just go away. Just nuke them from Orbit and lets just say they are the new Mark armors for the regular Marines… They still rub me the wrong way with their Fluff.
Marvel: Crisis Protocol looks amazing. I will have to pick this up. Kings of War 3 starter set looks like a good gateway into the game!
Marvel minis and stat cards look fun. Shame it seems like even the basics of having rules in the core box isn’t sacrosanct anymore though. Digital downloads can keep printing costs for a box down and allow a ruleset to be adapted easily, but i guess i am old fashioned and want a full glossy rulebook….even if the box cost would have to stay high or go up as a result.
The Kings of War new human models look brilliant. Will be checking out the let’s play soon.
Gerry’s attack on the Harry Potter Basilisk made me look up what the myths say that it should have looked like. Criticism can lead to education. ? I am not sure a cockatrice would have been as impressive as the Harry Potter version and perhaps they made the right esthetic choice, but i know i am wrong and the giant is right. ?
I’d love to win a Two Kings of War 3rd Edition Starter Set. The game appears interesting!
Is he calling me names again?
What did I do to him?
In any case I loved the harry potter set, must find out more about the base game.
Not going to touch the grav-truck.
Good show guys.
Harry Potter looks good but Marvel leaves me cold, and downloading the missing / extra rulebook is a no-no from me. New Kings of War set looks awesome
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Awesome Weekender and discussions about the upcoming games
delta one zero looks like a really interesting game.
I hope you do some Lets’s Plays for Marvel Crisis Protocol, after all you already unboxed it and assembled the miniatures.
Perhaps you could also play the Harry Potter game?
KoW 3rd edition sound interesting, I had the starter and some stuff back in the first edition but never really played.
the marvel core set and the delta one zero KS look really interesting to me
Even my turkey-legged palanquin is giving this weekender a thumbs up with its opposable dingleberries
Some great content guys!
Really looking forward to the new Kings of War!
Great show. Really enjoyed it.
I actually like the new bonereapers it’s a sign the higher-ups let the designers go nuts so bodes well for future factions, though it does show GW are making sure nothing in age of sigmar can be “homaged” by other company
I have a goblin and Kingdom of men army for KoW and i am looking forward to seeing what is done with them and what news funky years I am getting.
Gerry, a dutch KOW here. I would love the two player set! or damm that will be army 3 and 4. will it come with extra shelving… ;o)
Looking forward to KoW 3rd edition.
Great show fellas. The bonereaper ossiarch model would be great to kitbash/convert into a Genestealer Patriarch model sitting on a mobile throne.
Age of Sigmar continues to do absolutely nothing for me aesthetically. I’m glad mantic are continuing to develop kings of war, hopefully it will still be a decent rank and flank game when I get the chance to get into it! Never seems to be enough time to dive in!
Harry Potter has a special place in my heart as it was the first nerdy/geeky thing that my then girlfriend was ever super into and while I was initially just trying to share the experience with her, I have to say I really fell in love with the world. The fact that I was able to show my wife into the world of board gaming and geeky goodness owes a lot to Harry Potter. I prefer the fantastic beasts part of the world though. Better magic from trained wizards… although Crimes of Grindlewald had very few crimes in it, and was a bit pants cos it was all setup and no payoff. Still… I fully intend to pick up the Knights model sets and hopefully they will be the gateway into miniature gaming for my wife. She’s been steadfastly holding out on that side of my geekery!
I was always a bit bummed at having missed out on Knights Models Marvel stuff, so Crisis Protocol has an appeal. I’m trying hard not to cave and buy it though!
On the Primaris stuff, the advanced technology for space marines is killing the 40k lore for me. On the one hand it’s nice to see the story move forward, it’s something I had always wished they’d do when I was actually playing 40k. Careful what you wish for! The new lore seems lazy from what I have read of it and the Primaris are a symptom of that. GW were so afraid of alienating their largest player base by upscaling their marines, that they came up with a whole new storyline to keep people happy until people just switched over of their own accord. Anyone in touch with reality knew as soon as they were introduced that stumpy marines were dead, so I wish they’d just pulled the bandaid off and done a straight replacement instead of faffing around and ruining the marine background.
Re: the bandaid
GW are probably still recovering from the backlash to the destruction of the WFB world.
Give some time for the Primaris stuff to really bed in and then they might have a Primaris vs non-Primaris civil war….
Order 66 anyone?
(Sorry, I couldn’t resist 😉 )
I can’t think of anything I’d like less than an order 66 rip off ?? but it’s about what I’d expect from the clowns writing the background now
I think you’re right about the backlash from fantasy. But upgrading the miniature range is different from destroying a setting. Ironically if that was the driver behind the Primaris fluff, this has probably done more harm to fan sentiment than the straight replacement would have, as the new Primaris are amazing (vehicles notwithstanding). Entirely subjective though, I know some people who love the new background. So horses for courses and all that…
Never a great fan of 28mm Mass Battle, even though that’s where I started in the hobby (with historical as Warhamster didn’t exist). I love element based games so DBA/M was my go to. Kings of War now neatly fits this gap, and I also enjoy Warpath (Mantic are fast becoming my go to for Mass Battle). Only thing that put me off was cost.
With the introduction of the many ranges of affordable plastics, this is not tat much of an issue anymore (working out a Horde base in 15/18mm and 28/32mm, the cost is not that different), so am quite interested in the new edition – enough so to buy models and order bases (I use metal as I store on magnetic sheet in Really Useful Boxes (though I’m going to steal Warzan’s idea of using the lid as a tray from now on).
So keep up the articles on 3rd, and my copy is on order
Late one, but happy weekend!
Great show as always,
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Must say, as nice as the new primaris stuff is, 40K is no longer for me. AOS has never really appealed to me though I do like the look of the corvus faction from warcry…… should paint them as the Australian magpies instead of crows, then they would be truly terrifying!! I blame Sam as I am slowly drifting back to ME SBG for minis, as I seem to play mantic’s vanguard occasionally when I remember to go down the the local monday knights club, MESBG companies (sort of) bastardized with Rangers of Shadow Deep (used the LoTR minis)
Can’t wait for the new edition of Kings of war, I’m jumping in feet first with an undead army, so far I’ve painted 80 skeletons…
I am commenting below as I would like to win one of those new starter sets for kings of war
@warzan: The point of a drop pod would be to drop from orbit.
So much cool stuff this weekend! Loved Marvel Crisis Protocol and Harry Potter, would love to get both… maybe I’ll get Crisis Protocol, but not sure.
KoW 3rd edition – great!
DnD Eberron – I’ve only just started tinkering with DnD, so will see how this plays out!
kings of war would be so nice!
I really need the Kings of War 3rd edition in my life, it looks AWSOME
Not sure how I feel about the chicken walker for Ossiarch Bonereapers. The rest of the range looks cool, sort of, but this just looks wrong somehow.
The whole range is fueling my longing for my TK. I have an incredible desire to go and look them over 🙂
Great show. Looking forward to crisis protocol. Also looking forward to the marvel LCG. Have a great weekend everyone!
I am very interested to see how Marvel and Batman 3rd edition compare!
Enjoyed this one whilst sipping coffee and painting!
Happy Saturday everyone, I like the way they introduce new races to the game, from the small skirmish (let’s call them modes) to the actual game itself. It helps you build the army.
The Harry Potter game and miniatures intrigues me, as a fan of both the books and the movies. I can see purchasing this for myself as a collector kit of mini’s I would love to paint and then turn them into dioramas featuring scenes from the stories as I imagined them. I would stick to the books for my inspiration and the movies for the miniatures. Great sets and great show guys, keep it up!
I’m very much interested in using my Age of Magic undead and putting them on trays for some Kings of War action.
Also I’m with you guys on the Bonereapers, they’re just terrible.
I was on holiday with no wifi but now I’m back for some Weekender goodness!
Its called metal gear solid Gerald!
Good job @ludicryan
You know me too well! 😀
If the winters and the wildlife where I live weren’t already lethal enough, I do believe this level of geekiness in this forum would be hazardous to my health. 00111111 indeed! It is almost intoxicating LOL…and apparently communicable. Bless you all, especially the Lost Boys of OTT. I have to say it made me smile to hear Warren talk about his girl. It was obvious early on my boy (who is a very hard worker) was never going to be a rancher, but the early versions of Hero Quest and the Marvel Heroes miniature games some two decades ago gave us a bridge that still spans all the way from the northern Rockies to the UK. Being a father can be a tricky business, but sometimes you get it right.
Very excited for KoW 3rd ed. If I got the box prize though it might keep me away from finally realising my 10mm forces for it…
I am all with Warren as far as the Primaris’ Hover Tanks go. I like what they have done with the range and I like they overall look of the new tanks, but why do they have to hover?
One of my most vivid childhood memories, growing up in Germany with British occupation forces still present, is of columns of chieftains going down the road headed for maneuvers near were I live. They did so on their steel treads and without rubber shoes. Since seeing and feeling that for the first time I have had in me a love for tracked vehicles.
Tracks feel like a part of what makes a tank a tank. So hover tanks, just don’t feel like proper tanks to me.
That being said, I too would love track conversion kits for these.
That Harry Potter game is looking better and better
Kings of war 3rd is almost here. So excited! If you haven’t given it a chance, give it a try.
Atomic mass is looking good as is the kings of war system .
With so many just okay games based on popular IP I am so hesitant with games like Harry potter.
Really enjoyed the show this week… again 🙂
I wanted to really enjoy the Harry Potter game, but Knight Models is really making it hard to support lately. The game models look phenomenal but the customer service model is questionable.
Marvel Crisis Protocol has been one of the top things on my radar since the announcement at Gen Con. I keep saying “Less than a month, less than a month…” but the wait is painful.
Happy weekend!
I’m totally with you @warzan on grave-thingy space marines!
That new Bone Reaper is probably the worst thing i’ve seen from GW… really ugly 🙁
Can’t wait to see what the new Eberron book brings to the table and i will be picking up the maps and the Warforged Cleric too 🙂
I’ll try to catch up on the XLBS on tuesday because, tomorow is election day here in Canada and it’s also my weekly D&D game night!
Thanks for the show guys.
Mmmm, nice selection of games this week. On the fence with Marvel Crisis, need to see some let’s plays. Fighting fantasy minis ?! Harry Potter game would go down a storm with my wee one but maybe not the resin mini’s. Think it would be better to use the rules, or a version of, with her Lego figures instead.
Very interested in Delta 1 0, hadn’t seen that before but it definately needs more investigating. As you say possibly a nice way to do modern combat without the baggage that would come with it.
just catching up on the weekender! i was so against the primaris at first and that i wasn’t going to get them. but then i started getting the conquest magazine for models for me and my kids to paint. the miniatures are pretty good and now got more lieutenants converted to spaces wolves than troops!
i like the way GW are moving away from classical ideas of races for AOS and making them more unique.this allows AOS to be its own game seperate to warhammer fantasy, they can go as strange and wacky as they want with their IP. allowing mantic to take the place of “Classic” fantasy wargame.
The mechanics behind the Marvel game sound good.
Also looking forward to Kings of War 3rd ed
Fighting Fantasy Legends: Such a massive part of my childhood. I had the entire collection of the first wave of FF books. Almost 30 odd if I recall. Sadly now charity shopped. Sadly this is a bit too pricey for me but oh so tempting.
Marvel: I was gutted when Knight Models lost the Marvel license. So great to see this game coming back. I’m gonna be getting this for sure (even though I’m more a DC man).
Got myself a nice new Darklands Skellie army, so would be interested in seeing how I can use that in the new KoW 3rd edition.
I can’t wait to get KoW 3rd ed. I’ve been trying to play a bit the last month or so, but it’s really annoying trying to get started in a new game when a new edition is coming out soon.
Oh no am late to the party. Guess I missed the giveaway… Sigh
Another great show guys, thank you! I always look forward to it. I was hoping that the coverage of Marvel would dissuade me from wanting it but that doesn’t seem to be working :). I’m not really feeling the ossiarchs, maybe if an underworlds faction comes out I’ll get them otherwise I think they are the least appealling “death” faction models, mostly because they don’t make a lot of visual sense. I could see a construct faction that was maybe more random-looking, shambly even. But why someone purposefully build these creations seems baffling.
If primaris were just new updated space marines sculpts I’d like them more, I just can’t get behind their current fluff. I really hate the design of their hover tanks, they just grate on me. There’s actually quite a few of the primaris sculpts that I don’t think hit the mark either. I look at them and think that these are not space marines.
Speaking of sculpts I don’t like, these Ossiarch Bonereapers. What the hell have they done to undead? Don’t get me wrong there’s a couple of sculpts in the range that I like, but the rest just look too… erm s***e. I was swaying towards getting into Age of Sigmar, but I think I’m going to stick to SAGA and Kings of War.
Loved KoW 1st and 2nd editions, can’t wait to see the 3rd.
Finally caved and have gone all in on Crisis Protocol! The new wave with Thor, Vision etc has tipped me over the edge!
Kings of War set looks a nice way to start mini’s look nice
Fighting Fantasy… those were the days!
Unlike Gerry, i am a modern warfare player, amongst others and the Delta one zero kickstarter has my interest. We also need more about Battlegroups Northag, Battlegroup and Force on Force mentioned on the weekender, cracking games.
First time commenter. This KoW offering is just too sweet to pass up. Also, loved the heartfelt story of family gaming, so important for the hobby. Looking forward to watching more now and finally using this site more, been meaning to for a while.
I am not a Harry Potter fan however, the miniatures look terrific.
Kings of War week!!!! Long live the King!
OK Love the binary language – but leave me out please, I need all my brain power to create rpg adventures for my group of Goblins!! Looking forward to receiving KoW 3 yay
Is Kings of War any good?