Weekender XLBS: Building Army Background & Making Models Your Own
February 14, 2016 by warzan
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Happy Sunday!
Customized armies in the gaps needs a thread in the forum, like the painting pics 🙂
@warzan The Vikings
http://imdb.com/rg/an_share/title/title/tt0052365/
That Mad Meks stuff is insane. Just…..Wow.
Shaterd Hearth got really nice mini and after seeing the las weekender the game play just look awhsome so could not resist and wish for more backer to jump in !!
and Happy sunday 🙂
Morning
Justin… 18:58… please save this and replay it as often as possible. Put some groaning background noise. Classic. Sorry Warren but awesome mate. Happy Sunday!
XLBS, no longer rated PG, now rated @warzan!
I’ve got the metal coins and power tokens for AGoT from Broken Egg. Probably going to get some more from them at AdeptiCon. They also do the best condition tokens on the market.
Vikings! Almost in a mind to jump across to my old haunt of Dublin to point out a few bits for you
Daffcon is at Firestorm Games in Cardiff on the weekend of April 8th-10th. It’s got a wide variety of games going on but no GW or PP. The focus is instead on games with smaller playerbases and there’ll be lots to try out. I’d be all over this con (and running the Relic Knights event on the Saturday) if I wasn’t at AdeptiCon the week before.
I think 2nd ed Incursion fulfilled its KS a few months back. Don’t think it’s a retail, though.
Abaddon is A bad un. That’s the first time I’ve noticed that.
“Where did metal coins turn into plastic armbands ?” In a parallel universe of course. We have obviously crossed over into one where you didn’t pay attention to what you said at the beginning of the show.
lol
Morning all, great explanation of the theory of relativity @warzan, totally baffled me but I think what you said backs up my own theory of “Shit Happens” quite nicely 😉
Happy Sunday.
Astrophysics, Einstein and gaming all in the same show.
Totally agree with @warzan about Nero Wolfe and you can now get them on DVD on Amazon.
Fabulous Beasts seems like an amazing blend of ideas and looks very polished too.
@warzan
Individualising it and giving little narratives to a Bolt Action army is where I take most of the hobby pleasure from and all the easy conversion possibilities plastic has to offer really make this fairly effortless..
When building an army for myself I usually go nuts in this respect 😎
For your Fallschirmjägers
http://www.beastsofwar.com/eventslist/bolt-action-project-vlog-building-wwii-armies/
I was keeping back a little (although I named every individual soldier..couldn’t help myself).
Happy Sunday!
First and foremost a good show, in fact a really good show ace content and really driven discussion on what to me Wargaming is really about. Making it, any of it your own. If you know me at all you will know how I prattle on at length trying to enthuse gaming in the cracks, writing in your own house rules and altering the way to look at even the most mundane way of gaming. I like to have an idea and see if it lights a fire then add kindling and allow that small fire to be a real proper furnace of ideas until it becomes self feeding ideas. I have Wargamed now over 50 years and I still have not seen everything wargaming. Each and every one of us in the hobby has the ability to bring something different even if it just one single original idea to this multiverse of ours. HAPPY SUNDAY ALL!
kirk douglas was always a viking it was his half brother tony curtis who grew up a slave and became a viking
Kirk Douglas in Vikings, what an ace film – may have to root it out for my Sunday afternoon viewing me thinks now that you’ve mentioned it! Forgive me for being an ignorant Englishman but doesn’t Dublin translate as black pool? Vikings always were prone to finding the best natural harbours when making their incursions, the Rhone, the Schelt, the Humber all provided nice big estuaries that could be exploited. If you’re in England, would check out the Jorvik museum in York, great place, any profits from the museum go back into financing new archaeological digs so it’s a nice place to support. Just thinking, Ben was on to something when it came to Romans – you had three legions lost in the Teutoberg Forest, General Varrus defeated by the great Arminius of the Germans (literally, Herman the German – “Varrus, give me back my legions!!!’), but you also had an expedition to Caledonia that was annihilated, several expeditions into the deserts of north Africa and the big famous one being Crassus and his expedition to Parthia (where he was later executed by having molten gold poured down his throat), there’s a village in China (forget the name) but the survivors from the Battle of Carrhae fled into the mountains and ended up surviving as mercenaries, ending up on the Parthian frontier with China. Worth remembering that Roman recruitment patterns aren’t completely understood, the Legio Hispania was based in Britain for years, no way they could have survived on a slow trickle of Spaniards, in which case there’s every chance that Romanised Gauls, Germans and later, Britons would have been recruited into the ranks. In the case of the Auxilia, the odds are they would have scraped together whatever they could. If they were going to struggle getting the ethnically correct recruits for the legions then what are the odds of Roman bureaucracy doing the same for the arrow fodder? Certainly with the auxiliaries you can add loads of flavour. One thing I’ve always wondered, the Romans from time to time realised that the European frontier, as good as it was, was still vulnerable. The Rhine freezes over in places in harsh winters, the Alps, as Hannibal proved, are in fact crossable. There was a scheme thrown about from time to time for the complete annexation of Germania, mass conscription into the army to help pacify the new territories and supply the eastern colonies with the manpower they needed. The new border of the Roman Empire would be the Carpathians and the River Oder (modern NE Germany) in which case Rome would now border Scandinavia. Does that mean viking auxiliaries in the Roman army? Varangians a couple of hundred years early? Great show folks!! Loving the Noodle place, having only just got into Infinity recently my mind is buzzing when it comes to terrain options, and having stuff like that pre-painted it’s looking like a serious threat to my wallet… Happy Sunday!!!
it does, nicked from the net
The Gaelic name for Dublin is ‘Baile Atha Cliath’ which translates literally as ‘town of the hurdle ford’, a description of the bank of wooden hurdles built up across the river Liffey by the Vikings. The word ‘Dublin’ is actually a composition of two Gaelic words: ‘dubh’ meaning ‘black’ and ‘linn’ means ‘pool’ (or ‘mire’). Thus the literal translation of the words from which Dublin gets its name is Black pool!
Crossing the ‘hurdle ford’ was not without its dangers. In 770 AD a band of Bon Valley raiders were drowned crossing the Liffey at the hurdle ford.
cheers @buggeroff, thought I was on to something! Heavily armoured warriors and water, rarely a good thing – really makes you think about a viking’s ability to jump into the surf and storm a beach or into a river and up the bank, getting the leather and wool components of your gear soaking wet would be heavy enough without having a mail shirt, reinforced boots n a dirty great big shield to lug about the place…
Coins: if minting the coins is out of reach, how about casting them in pewter or similar? Use the same process as for metal miniatues. Ink them for patina, and bobs your uncle,
I have seen many chinese i-ching coins that obviously are cast and painted/inked in this manner.
If you are looking to make coins in the thousands, there are companies that can mint coins /medallions that probably can give you a fair price. Worth checking into.
For the coins you could try the lost wax process, lots of fun to do I you have the patience 🙂
@warzan Love the Nero Wolfe reference.
It ran for 2 series on A&E. The original Pilot some of the actors are different than the ones in the series.
I got into the series via Sky Movies and I was able to get the box sets from the states.
@warzan Your impression of Nero Wolfe was spot on. You could play him if they do a remake. lol.
My profession is astrophysics and the discovery of gravitational waves is an amazing break through. I’m not going to critic your explanation or science. I’m sure there is plenty of information online if people want.
Excellent show guys.
I think what could work are “Challenge Coins”. Just a thought.
http://m.alibaba.com/product/2017980974/custom-3D-souvenir-coin-silver-coin.html?s=p
Happy Sunday everybody!
@warren
you can find your nero wolfe on you tube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5ebxBcBla0
There´s a website of the nero wolfe society, too
http://www.nerowolfe.org/htm/AE_tv_series/episodes.htm
It seemn there are DVD´s available.
Enjoy;-)
Happy Sunday,
great show folks glad to see @dignity has got his starter for 4 points, although that sounds like Bamber Gascoigne should be asking a question 😉
I have some spares for you I’ll throw up next week.
There are two great exhibitions in Dublin to visit and a tourist trap tour on the Liffey for the viking experience, if you don’t mind another tag along if you’re going to do it I’d love to come with as I’ve not been to the viking/medieval museum since the millennium anniversary in 1988 and I’m interested to see what they’ve done with it since then.
Take it easy folks
@warzan, Nero Wolfe 8 box DVD set through Amazon..
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00DMUTHJA/ref=s9_simh_gw_p74_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=1Q9Z1QC69CWD8YA9802H&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=577047927&pf_rd_i=desktop
and Justin, don’t worry about having no idea about General Relativity; it’s a bit like Quantum Mechanics – if you think you understand it, you don’t. Trust me, a good portion of my degree I spent trying to get my head fully around it and I still didn’t really.
@warzan here is a rough approx. of Nero Wolfe’s home in 28mm
http://www.multiversegamingterrain.com/brownstone-row-1a-apartment-building-a-p-67.html
Happy Sunday.
Making armies your own? Well I’m doing a 90% scratchbuild Cabal army for 40k…Does that count?
You can have Roman soldiers in India (defending an Augustan Temple in a Tamil Kingdom)
or the Roman Naval Base on the Farasan Islands (Southern Arabia – far from the frontier)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Roman-Empire-Indian-Ocean/dp/1783463813
or the Greeks in Central Asia (Alexandria Eschate – which was attacked by the Chinese)
or the Roman captives at Merv (edge of ancient Iran – Parthian Empire)
or the ‘Lijian’ Romans? (escapees from Merv) – settled on the Chinese frontiers
or you can have North Irish/Munster recruits in the Late Roman Army:
you can have the Viking outpost at Larne (Irish annals?)
Nero wolfe, brilliant, that should be a board game / investigation game on that license.
Before even assembled a model, I wanted to make my ork army as something special. It is still growing today and I often fantasized about the rise of Warboss Bloojaw.
I have sctach-built, converted and proxied a whole bunch of models and vehicules and still have projects for years to come! My looted stuff is made of bits from armies my friends are actually playing and my characters’ trophy racks abound with skulls and helmets taken during battles played on the table top.
@warzan you want to google “custom challenge coins uk” and have a look at getting quotes there, probably the BOW logo on one side and a blank space on the other side to get them inscribed/stamped with bootcamp/event dates or competition winners names.
happy sunday. great show as usual
Disclaimer.
This is a work of fiction. Any resemblance to any science living or dead is a coincidence.
Lol
Yeah it makes perfect sense in my head 😉 until it doesn’t!
You’re a story teller. As that great modern day Homer, Timmy Mallet would say: ” I know it’s true because i made it up myself. ”
You might be interested to read The Beginning of Infinity by David Deutsch. I’m thinking particularly of the chapter on ‘The Multiverse’, which as i recall he claims to have shown experimentally to exist. David researches quantum physics and this book is an introduction of his philosophy, theory and research.
at 4:11, my internet dropped out just as warren said stationary…and then the video froze.
In regards to historical accuracy and making something “mine” (and kinda @warzan ‘s A- team idea) there’s one part of world war 2 that I havn’t been able to find a damn thing on other than it happened: Apparently the OSS had 50 marines. In Russia. so I’ve got the idea of these guys being a deniable unit playing both sides to keep anyone being more powerful after the war than the states.
Just realized that I haven’t said that before: I am really liking Ben on the show. He has always very good input and his opinion/perspective on things corresponds very closely with mine, so thats nice. And he has just a lovely voice 😀
Years ago when I use to play 40k I made my own imperial force. The force included Guard and Space Marines on a ship lost in the warp. They left Terra at the high of technology and by the time they reappeared their level of tech increased. I used Mantics Enforcers as SM and Corp. Troopers as Guard. To me it looked so cool, I did conversions on all my vehicles, it was great.
The National Museum Of Ireland on kildare St, has a huge exhibit on Viking Dublin and Ancient Irish history. Its free in as well which is always a bonus. Dublinia at Christchurch also exhibits Viking and Medieval Dublin.
Dublin was a Viking settlement called Dyflin, from the Irish Duiblinn meaning Black Pool cause of the area of the river Liffey that was settled was the deepest.
an amphibious truck full of tourists with horned plastic helmets drives around the streets of Dublin – that must be Viking something?
You have to pay for Dublinia – but it is really good
http://vikingsplash.com
@warzan If you want a behind the lines rogue formation story for WW2, try ‘Darkie’s Mob’, used to be in Battle comic in the 70s, available as a graphic novel. Very grim and gritty story of a unit with a captain of dubious history and a pathological hatred of the Japanese fighting in the jungles of Burma.
http://fanboy.frothersunite.com/DarkiesMob_Intro.html
For a bolt action game you could use a Chindit based unit with maybe a few local Burmese irregulars and a few lost US marines using captured Japanese kit.
For a bit of weird WW2 you could try ‘Fiends on the Eastern Front’ comic strip from 2000AD, a small unit of Romanians allied with the Germans who only fight at night and leave blood drained bodies and seem unkillable. What happens if a German soldier learns their dark secret and then Romania changes sides and starts fighting for the Russians and start hunting the Germans who know too much?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fiends-Eastern-Front-2000-Ad/dp/1904265642
This could be anything from a skirmish with German vampire hunter SS storm-troopers (silver bullets, crucifix close combat weapons and stakes galore) to a full battle with a vampire led thrall army of enslaved Russians.
A good show guys with a mix of articles,
@warzan if you’re drinking like a Viking it should be SKOLL? the expensive part will be getting the coin dies made then any workshop should have a hand fly press to form the coins.
Kelly’s apocalypse now? WWII unit.
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Manual+Hand+fly+Press&view=detailv2&&id=B460BBBE581000CB47F3E3DE5224109216D208F9&selectedIndex=2&ccid=hFu3Shmb&simid=607995953563697414&thid=OIP.M845bb74a199b1b16117dc5276d885335H0&ajaxhist=0
@warzan You could come up with your own Trollkin Quitari (tartan pattern) and paint scheme for the flags/banners and clothing for your Trollbloods force. You could come up with the backstory of their Kith (Clan) and their personal history. You could integrate them into the Hordes and Warmachine timelines and Trollkin history. You could even flavor them as far as preferred tactics, warbeasts, and units. Lots of things you can do to flavor them your own–even customizing models and basing.
Great show guys!
I’ll have to check out Frostgrave more & more with these awesome release!
ROAD TRIP!!!!! beer and vikings, HELL YEAH! what can go wrong 😉 😉
http://www.museum.ie/Archaeology/Exhibitions/Current-Exhibitions/Viking-Ireland?gclid=CIqPufHK-coCFQoKwwodLh0NuQ and it’s free
have to do this as well
Viking Splash Tour
http://vikingsplash.com/
So, am I the first to mention the hilarious 5 minutes of justin staring blankly into the camera completely off in another world as warren and ben discuss making games your own?
I laughed my head off.
@dignity The Ragnar and co miniatures are great.. I started a thread a few months ago when I built my SAGA war band. Not the greatest painter or photographer but it was a fun force to start me back into miniatures again when I had been out of it for years and years … Now have SAGA, Kings of War Undead and thanks to you guys EDEN with a nicely pro painted biker. http://www.beastsofwar.com/groups/historical-games/forum/topic/saga-project/ – See more at: http://www.beastsofwar.com/the-weekender/fanhunter-wolsung-rules-walking-dead/comment-page-7/#comment-253048
Wow, one of the best XL… bs ever. 🙂 The discussion about giving character to your army or personalizing your characters was really really really interesting. I agree with @dignity about the colour scheme. I tend to paint my army in a given way and write some history about it. I have a friend who actually writes the name of each individual warrior on the rant of the base.
Cheers.
Also @dignity it seems we bought the same stuff for saga!
The funding for the Mantic The Walking Dead KS is still going a little slow [given the IP] but the value is definitely getting up there!