Weekender: Age Of Sigmar Deepkin, Bolt Action & 80s Beat ’em Ups!
April 21, 2018 by brennon
Welcome to another episode of The Weekender in the wake of Salute 2018. We've got some awesome interviews and more for you today as well as a great prize from Warlord Games.
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Make sure to stick with us throughout the show and let us know what you think about everything we cover.
Updates
We've got some great things for you to look forward too...
- The Great War Article Series - A new article series from oriskany and neves1789 launches on Monday.
- Salute 2018 - Check out the Live Blog where you could still get your hands on 30+ prizes!
- UK Games Expo Merch - You can now start looking to snap up merchandise for UK Games Expo in June
...also make sure to check out our Beasts Of War Merchandise where we have Dice Bags and Satchels for you to snap up.
MegaMetroCity Unboxed
We sit down to do a bit of unboxing and take a look at a Kickstarter game which is coming to the fundraising platform next week.
If you like the idea of 80's nostalgia and the beat 'em up genre then make sure to check out what MegaMetroCity is all about.
Bolt Action Show & Tell - Winter German Infantry
Charlie is in the studio talking to us about the new plastic kit from Warlord Games that allows you to plunge your Germans into the chill of a European winter.
Will you be snapping up this kit for your own army?
All Your Bases Belong To Us!
This new segment needs a better title. Make sure you let us know what you'd call it in the comments below. Anyway, today we're looking at Micro Art Studio and their amazing base selection.
Warren, Justin and Sam have picked out their favourites and share their thoughts on how they'd use them.
Idoneth Deepkin
This leads us neatly on to looking at the new Idoneth Deepkin and how these bases could be used to bring this new army from Games Workshop and Age Of Sigmar to life on the tabletop.
Have you been lured in by this new Aelf faction within the world of the Mortal Realms?
Darker Days Radio
Chris Handley was in the studio recently filming more Kingdom Death: Monster with us and we had a chat with him about what's happening with his Podcast and what events he is going to be attending this year.
Make sure to check out their podcast and it is an awesome resource for anyone interested in World Of Darkness.
Kickstarters
We take a look at two big Kickstarters online right now...
- Confrontation Classic - Get your hands on ALL of the old miniatures for this amazing Fantasy range.
- Miskatonic University: The Restricted Collection - Push your luck and delve into this library to uncover dark secrets.
...have you been considering these?
Competition Prizes
We have a prize to give away from the last Weekender. If you put in a comment for the Doctor Who & Companion Set listen out for your name and Claim Your Prize.
We also have a new competition this week to win a set of German Winter Infantry (Plastic) from Warlord Games for use in Bolt Action.
Listen out for how to win that and get your comments in below...
Have a great weekend!
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First! First Time Ever Being First! A First For Me! Why Am I Saying First So Much? That’s A First. Have A Happy Weekend!
@stvitusdancern Nice to see you posting on the Tabletop Commanders forum as well
Happy Saturday
80’s night. Only play music on tape. Boombox time.
Stop filming and get of your arse and see ready Player One. You need to see it about 4 times to get all the retro goodness that you miss the first few times.
Happy Weekend!
Beautiful painting on those Bolt Action minis.
Really looking forward to getting my bit with @oriskany published ^^
It’s much more than a “bit,” @neves1789 ! Like @warzan says in the segment, this was a real 50-50 co-production (as opposed to many of my collaborations, where a community member sends in some great photos or a few paragraphs of writing or some such). We seriously couldn’t have done this one without you!
Haha thanks! I’m not nervous about it being published at all… 😀
Enjoy the nerves. 😀 All too soon it becomes “normal.” At the same time, don’t be nervous, your material is great, your background is insightful, the photos are awesome, and the writing is solid!
Hopefully it will be enough to overcome the partner you were working with. 🙂 🙂 🙂
It’s the Weekend!!
Dare I admit that, as someone who hasn’t bought a GW model for years, that the Idoneth Deepkin are close to turning me…
The development of warfare and the technology that went with it is why that new game set in 1914, before trenches became the main paradigm, as previewed 9n Salute coverage is so interesting.
I would guess that the main technology that was the catalyst for the change was the machine gun; consider that first charge in the Warhorse movie.
The machine gun was being used to devastating effects as far back as the 1880’s in the Madhist War. Its true potential was realised in the early conflicts of the 20th century. WW1 refined it with the setting up of dedicated machine gun companies later in the war.
Indeed it was used before WW1, but tended to be a rare piece of equipment that was deployed as individual ‘elite units’ ( in wargaming terms) and was devastating in its own sphere of effect. I can’t help but recall those films with the scene where a tarp is pulled off a single old automatic repeating gun mid-fight which turns the battle… until it jams, overheats or runs out of ammo.
The industrial production of the into WW1 meant that whole squads could be deployed that between them created a network of interlinked spheres that could dominate and lock down a whole battlefield… forcing nicely raised targets on horseback to abandon their mounts and driving infantry to take and build cover… becoming increasingly entrenched, metaphorically and then literally.
One of my Grandfathers had joined the cavalry before the war, rode into battle at the start but spent most of it operating machine guns.
@coxjul – is this “new” 1914 game one of those that rolled out at Salute?
Our article is set in 1918, specifically the spring and summer battles of March-June. One, that’s the centennial anniversary at the moment 🙂 and two, and here’s where I think I agree with you, it avoids much of the trench stalemate we see in 1915, 16, and 17.
1914 is largely “trenchless” as many know, but so is 1918. Offensives like St. Michael, Georgette, and Blücher largely shatter British and then French trench lines, and get the war moving in a way not really seen since 1914.
But of course you guys probably know all this already, and we cover it in the articles.
A lot of people avoid Great War gaming because they imagine static, stalled trench warfare and see it as “dull.” Well …
1) “Trench” warfare only dominates “mid-war” period, leaving off 1914 and 1918 battles that are a little more mobile.
2) Trench warfare only dominated the Western Front, leaving off the whole Eastern Front, Balkans, Middle East, and Austria-Hungarians vs. Italians in the Alps.
3) Trench warfare is a helluva lot more complicated and interesting than most people think. Its not just two lines of deep ditches where two groups of men are hiding from each other. As I’m sure you guys know, these trench systems were incredibly complicated, interconnected networks.
4) Also, for a gaming table, don’t have your armies set up in two lines of trenches and then compel one to attack the other across no-man’s land. Build one side’s trenches only, in depth and detail (extending back sometimes for miles), and then put the other side’s army already with a foothold in the trench (the assault across no man’s land has already taken place, these are the survivors trying to secure and expand the lodgement). Now you have a “channel warfare” scenario pushing back and forth and around each other in what should be a bewildering maze of trenches.
First published in 1975, “The Social History of the Machine Gun” by John Ellis (Pimlico Press) tells the story of how the machine gun was developed in America
but remained largely ignored by the European military powers, except for use in
colonial wars.
That was Dr. Richard J. Gatling, right? I think I read somewhere he was actually a pacifist who hated war, he thought his invention would “end war forever.” 😐
WW2 fillum? Kelly’s Heroes!!!
Why? Donald Sutherland’s character (did someone say Oddball?) and a dodgy Tiger I replica – a T34 converted to vaguely look like a Tiger. Something to annoy the purists like John.
I think you should call the Basing segment – Back to Base-ics!
Id go with move zig, make your time, someone set us up the bomb, hello gentlemen, or buttery biscuit base, but then again there is a reason im generally not allowed to name things….
happy weekend, good show
I was typing The Dam Busters as Sam said it. The main reason is that it was the staple Saturday afternoon black & white war movie that was played over and over again when I was growing up. It brings back memories of day long past. I’m getting too old.
Happy Weekend guys,
I am going to go with Empire of the Sun for my WW2 movie of choice.
I think I saw the fortune telling machine from Big and maybe the Last Starfighter arcade machine too in the tiles for Mega Metro City.
Some nice bases with potential. I do really like a nice base although not sure how easy it will be to have the model stand flat footed in those ones Justin choose. Hope to see you three prime and paint them.
There was also a TRON reference in the arcade tile of MegaMetroCity. The arcade was “Arcade Flynn”; Flynn’s being the arcade and main character’s last name in TRON.
Flynn Lives!
The Warlord figures are improving. The Hetzer kit looks fantastic.
My absolute favourite movie is Cross of Iron.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074695/
It had a really interesting portrayal of German troops, especially for its time.
Historical Editor approves this comment. ^^^ 😀 😀 😀
I would also add Terrence Malick’s masterpiece The Thin Red Line, based on James Jones’ novel. Tragically overlooked as it came out shortly after Saving Private Ryan – Thin Red line is a much darker, much deeper look at the psychology of men at war without all the Spielberg summer-movie moralizing schmaltz that’s caked all over Private Ryan and “spin offs” like Band of Brothers. The soundtrack is also one of the best ever, back when Hans Zimmer was really at the top of his game (frankly I think he’s a little overworked / overexposed at the moment, a lot of his music has gotten a little “samey” in more recent years).
Yes, absolutely, “The Thin Red Line” is a masterpiece. Though the various Hollywood stars
in cameo roles was somewhat distracting.
Did Terrence Malick ever release a Director’s Cut? It is always interesting (and slightly surreal) to watch a film you’ve seen many times suddenly transform through re-editing, inclusion of deleted scenes and/or alternate endings. “Apocalypse Now Redux”, “Lord
of the Rings Extended Editions” and the anniversary “Blade Runner” DVD are just three examples – watching these versions of the films was someone like being in a parallel universe.
I agree, some of the cameos are a little eye-rolling. The worst is George Clooney’s. What saves it is Sean Penn’s inner monologue and eye rolling, the whole POINT of that scene. “They just keep bringin’ ’em in … more bullshit, more self-important speeches.”
How “meta” is this supposed to be? Are you talking about the the army officers in the story, Sean, or the casting director on set? 😀 😀 😀
Best movie ever The Eagle has Landed. Saw it after I read the book.
segment name suggestion: Rate that Base
If Warren’s presenting: Drop the Base 🙂
Base in your face
Basic Instinct
20Hz
Drop F
Flock It! – The Basing Segment
Wheels of resin
This 😀 😉 .
What i mean is i agree with @somegeezer and his ” Drop the Base ” suggestion….Really should have made that clear in one post…..
The best/favorite world war two movie would have to be A bridge too far. An iconic struggle brought to the big screen.
Mechanised warfare really started in 1860s with the American Civil War, trench warfare was used in ACW. The wars of the later half of the 19th Century developed warfare.
Completely agree, and @neves1789 and I cover this in the article series (specifically Part One, Background and Introduction)
The Eagle has landed as the characters are so large in personality
Second favourite is The Great Eascape as love the idea of getting one over on the occupation forces right under their noses……… just appeals to my nature
WW1 invented tanks and air combat, made artillery and machine guns more lethal.
WW2 invented atomic weapons, made tanks and air combat more lethal.
WW3 oh.
WW4 sticks and stones
A witty bloke, that Einstein. 🙂
kellys heroes is one of the best war movies of all time as neither side is shown in a good way everyone is out for their own gains and oddball is the greatest character in any movie, and ive lost track how many movies the hollywood tiger has been in (warlord even have their version of it)
if i had to pick another movie it would have to be stalingrad as its my fav xmas movie well it has snow it lol
Another great show. Really good mix of features. Was Ben glazing over during the Irish myths section?
Favourite WW2 movie. Agree with Warren Downfall hugely powerful especially the end where the real life individual who is the central character in the film is interviewed.
However favourite film must be an old British black and white from wet 70’s Sunday afternoons; Ice Cold in Alex. Set in the Western Desert in WW2 but no fighting, really a story of survivial and the triumph of humanity over inhumanity. Sylvia Sims in a sweaty battledress and John Mills doing his Carlsberg advert, what’s not to like. A film worth waiting for.
Ice Cold in Alex is brilliant. Now I want a beer.
Winter Germans it has to be Battle Of The Bulge
Best WW2 movie? Catch 22. It’s the perfect balance of pitch black humour; a portrayal of how horrible it is; yet still a fantastic war movie.
And plain old USAF aircraft pr0n 🙂
You’ll love it.
Base Hunter?
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I’ll let myself out.
Happy weekender great seeing this on the big TV at home having a community TV vibe back in the time. The tank colours look fantastic guys.
i wish Warlord would sell the unit cards as a set per theatre with all the cards you need and update pack for any new varants that release that year for your army.
we’ve heard the story behind the table at least three times Warren 🙁
Best WW2 movie has to be Kelly’s Hero’s Wooooof Woooof
Got to be ‘Basic Instinct’s for basing segment.
And some of those bases be great for Carnevale skirmish… if they were smaller and round.
Its obviously Warren’s base needs.
My favourite WW II movie is “Das Boot” from 1981. Especially the very long version (9 hours) is ever so epic (“Scheiß Aale!”). It captures more parts of the book than did the cinema versions. In case anyone wants to read that the writer was Lothar Buchheim, that´ll be enough to find the book on a site named after a very long river in South America.
I´m repeating myself, but just like Warren I was highly excited looking at the Blood Red Sky board on Salute with the aircraft carrier. Want, need, desire.
I would start as best WWII movie with “The longest day” with a lot actors who did really participate actively during the war. It was pretty accurate with anecdotes but very far from war reality. Saving Private Ryan was one of the first movies in wich the details of the destructive capacities of modern warfare were shown. Fury is just an other great terribly realistic movie.
But i liked the Untergang and especially the Grande Vadrouille, not forgetting Das Boot and of course Memphis Belle. So it is really embarassing! I just can’t decide wich one is my favorite.
But I just hope that War Lords German Winter Infantry will capture my OP, My GI’s are waiting for them hidden in the shelves.:-)
A great show guys the dark days figures look fantastic the GW sea elves story was good the other models look great.
Glad you like the stuff I have painted.
PS Battle of the bulge for a great war film.
Guys, guys, guys. If you’re doing an 80s night don’t forget to cave out some time to play some old school Cyberpunk. One of the best games of all time.
I’ve never really gotten in to WW2 movies (Unless Iron Skies counts. Lots of fun!). However I LOVE Band of Brothers. Its so good. I get sucked in every time its on the screen.
Any chance you can show off painted and unpainted versions of the bases in the future, even if you are just using images from the manufacturers website?
Dark Blue World. A film about two Czech pilots that fought in the Battle of Britain.
A few corrections on the Confrontation KS:
1) The rule book WILL NOT be included. It will be a quick start guide not the full rules
2) The ORIGINAL rule book C3 will be available as a download, but they will not be correcting any of the English, spelling and grammar issues. Also, Dogs of War is not even a download. You can find it in one of the community forums.
3) The plastic will be PVC so you cannot get the same level of detail as the originals.
4) There is no live stream, the only live stream planned is one with Angel painting an OLD resin sculpt.
I will leave it at that as we do not need any arguments on this forum.
But, I agree with Warren, pledge a 1e and sit back and do not go all in until we get all the information.
My favorite ww2 movie has to be A Bridge Too Far. I have always been fascinated by the nature of that daring operation, and the cast of that movie is mind boggling. This and The Longest Day are of such a high production value!
Cheers!
Always loved The Longest Day. First epic war movie I ever saw and inspiration for many reinactments with my Airfix soldiers. “Hold until relieved” Tee hee
A Bridge too Far would be my pick, with The Eagle has Landed a very close second.
@oriskany . I would disagree with the comment about trenches only dominating the Western Front. There were large trench systems on the Italian Front and quite a few in the middle East although only found static objectives like Gaza and along the Suez
For an example on the Italian Front click on the link and scroll down
http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/topic/190638-trench-map-asiago-plateau/
@oriskany I just realized I misread your original comment on the topic that I answered above. Apologies
No worries. 😀
I remember that batman amiga game. It had a creepy intro with the Jack Nicholson clown… “Did you ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight?” Hours of fun.
Favourite war film Saving Private Ryan. I watched at the cinema, I was completely engrossed and completely emotionally drained by the time I walked out of the show. I decided then I was never going be a soldier if I could help it. The opening scenes of the beach landing were amazing.
I think that game was actually my first experience of Batman.
I LOVE those new BA releases, great to see Warlord in the Studio, great work!
Agree with Bens first choice, A Bridge to Far. Although Kelly’s Heroes is a good fun movie to watch.
Chris’s work isn’t just good it’s consistently so. amazing looking collection, love his style.
i have been investigating the invisible sun RPG of late and its links to mage the ascendancy has peaked my interest in the system. i have some interest in changeling also.
do you have any episodes that focus on these two @doctorether ? also any info on the collection as a whole or where to get them would be cool.
Thanks.
We have a number of episodes on our podcast that cover Mage the Ascension.
We haven’t covered Invisible Sun as it was prohibitively expensive.
i’ll definitely get on that mate. i feel you on the cost of invisible sun. not pulled the trigger myself yet.
Those new winter Germans look great! Downfall is an amazing film, so different from the others very realistic, but for me, my favourite WW2 movie has to be Saving Private Ryan, just love it! Also love Band of Brothers and the Pacific mini series.
Happy Weekend!
Like the Base section, going to have to agree with ‘Drop the Base!’ for the segment name.
As for WWII movies, well more miniseries, but I think there was a movie version, I have to go for ‘Das Boot’. Absolutely loved it when I first saw it in the 80s and still love it now for it’s portrayal of the true terrors on 1940s submarine conflict.
I forgot to add earlier Today marks the 100th anniversary of Baron Von Richthofen’s death
Well you can guess from my avatar what my favourite WWII film is, yes it’s Kelly’s Heroes. I remember seeing it for the first time around age 10. For me it works because it mixes so many genres so well, the heist movie, the spaghetti western, the war movie, and the buddy comedy. The cast too is stellar.
Saving Private Ryan. No other movie has ever shown as vividly, the absolute carnage of what happens when you decide to land on an opposed beach. The MG42 teams in enfilade positions literally got 1000s of kills. Devastating. Even more so, as it came out when I was in Royal Marines Commando training, so there was a brief moment of “fuck have I chosen the right career” as the ramp went down on the landing craft at the beginning. 20 years later I’m a Sgt Mjr and yes it was the right career.
My favourite WW2 film is Dunkirk, maybe cos its recent perhaps, but I saw it in cinema and watched it a couple of times at home already. The film also has also inspired me to start a BEF army and early Germans too.
Favourite WW2 film? That’s almost impossible to pick. I really like the classics, The Longest Day, A Bridge Too Far, Bridge on the Riwer Kwai, Cross of Iron… If I’d pick one of those to watch today, I’d probablty go with The Longest Day.
As a Finnish person, I feel obligated to mention The Unknown Soldier. The latest incarnation released last year visually quite amazing considering its a Finnish production. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4065552/
My favorite wwii movie, if this counts, is band of brothers. It has everything, funny, serious, true to history, and extremely moving. It’s one of those times where the true story required very little Hollywood exaggeration. Plus, how many times do you get interviews of the real people alongside the show. I’d really love some winter Germans to do a band of brothers Bastogne game.
Also I think a segment on bases should be called “Warren’s Base desires” with an intro of him wooing bases 😉
My favorite WW2 movie is the largest day, why it was about the D-day landings.
Didn’t micro art studios do a plastic version of the bases with c’mon a few years back
Definitely agree Ben is a corporate shill for B&B; you guys aren’t the only ones he’s convinced to buy into it. 🙂
@warzan ‘s comment on UKGE meetups makes me glad I’m not going – something about the image of him running around glomping everyone is terrifying. 😆
On MegaMetroCity:
• Is @dracs even old enough to been into 80s fighting games? Surely he’s a 90s child? Then again I was born in ‘88 and was into the original Transformers and TMNT cartoons as a sprog, so shouldn’t find Sam having been into 80s computer games that strange. 🙂
• On the boss difficulty, is there a ‘Nintendo Hard’ level?
• I think Big T is Mr T’s older brother. 😉
• Okay, Sam is a 90s kid – called it 😆
• Optimus Prime’s on there? 😀
• Disapointed that with a name like Mega(Metro)City there’s no Judge Dredd references, maybe it was on one of the tiles you didn’t look at.
[will comment on the rest of the vid when I’ve had chance to watch the rest]
On bases:
• You brought up Grey Knights for Warren’s choice, but I think they’d actually look good on Sam’s choice; remember GK are the anti-daemon force so ideally should be fighting on daemonically possessed/corrupted terrain. 😉
• One we prepared earlier? Is Sam hinting that he’s leaving BoW for Blue Peter? 😛
On Deepkin:
• Stealing souls because their own souls are screwed over by Slaanesh – so Dark Eldar then?
• the serpent being in one piece is a nice touch.
• speaking of Dark Eldar, the Thralls would make good Mandrakes.
• Sam and Warren may be waiting for the turtle, I’m waiting for someone to get it and put four elephants riding on its back to hold the howdah up. Go on @dracs – do it, you know you want to. 😛
On Warren getting jokey and LARPing: simple solution, find a LARP where you can be a court jester or something 😉
Wands: @warzan you never touch another man’s wand. 😛
On the talk on Irish myth: reminds me I should really get around to reading the Mabinogion someday to learn about Welsh mythology.
On Justin’s horse: he doesn’t need one, just one of those horse heads on a stick little kiddies have. 😛
On fair folk shadow stealing: probably something like they steal your souls by stealing your shadow or something.
On favourite Doctors: if it makes you feel better Sam, I did place Toughton as a close second, so you’re not alone in your appreciation for him. 🙂
Fave WW2 film: umm, Dad’s Army (the original one not the recent remake) maybe…err don’t really know many WW2 films…err if not that…err, does the first Captain America film count? Told you I didn’t know many ^^; Good thing I have no chance of winning with my luck at competitions 😆
… I could make Great A’tuin…
Does “Band of Brothers” count as a movie? If so that’s my favorite World War Two movie. I read the book prior to seeing the series and it follows the book very well I think. If that doesn’t count then “The Big Red One” is my next choice with Lee Marvin and Mark Hamill. It’s a look at several theaters of combat all wrapped up into one movie.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080437/
Downfall and A Bridge Too Far are great shouts, love em but has to be Longest Day for me
or Went the Day Well
One of my favourites
The great escape. Charles Bronson as the claustrophobic tunnel digger was the best.
ww2 films,633 squadron,cross of iron,das boot,longest day,Fortress of War is a 2010 Russian-Belarusian war film recounting the June 1941 defense of Brest Fortress against invading Wehrmacht forces in the opening stages of Operation Barbarossa.Stalingrad (1993)film,where eagles dare some of my favourite films
My name is D’Artagnan and I’m a mighty pirate
Best WW2 movie for me was Saving Private Ryan, partly because it was interesting, but mostly because it gave us the Band of Brothers series 🙂
Warlord do it again and produce some dam fine minis. The want button strikes again.
My favorite WWII movie is Cross of Iron. Really gritty look at the a Easten Front. The slow motion scenes at the end as the Germans come back through the their own lines was amazing.
^^ +50 this comment. 😀
great film! the eeriness and surreal of Hänschen klein playing in the background, what a masterpiece
Amen, @bigdave – The very end of the closing credits never, NEVER fails to put chills in my spine. As Steiner’s crazed, heartbroken laughter (played over photos of the atrocities and battlefield dead) fades back into Hänschen klein – the last title card slides up . . .
Rejoice not in his defeat, O Men.
For although the world stood up and stopped the bastard,
The bitch the bore him . . . is in heat again.
Bertolt Brecht
Simply the best I know of and so well acted.
I’m delighted Chris is back with more Kingdom Death episodes. Really looking forward to those to see how the settlement gets on.
As to favourite WWII movie I think I’ll go with Das Boot. It has the atmosphere of the war totally encapsulated.
Expect typical foul ups on some rules but eh…. still good stuff and hopefully everyone playing along will learn what not to do.
Nearly missed it today, but in before midnight after all
My favourite WW2 film has to be Battle of the Bulge simply because it many great moments, like the panzer song, the Germans pretending to be MPs, and lots of tanks.
I have the DVD and it has the full cinema intermission on the dvd which is mad, but funny.
The best WW2 movie has to be “Das Boot”!!!
Then there were some really good ones, too:
“Enemy at the gates”
“The Eagle has landed” (as @dracs allready mentioned)
“A bridge too far”
“Stalingrad”
BUT
“Fury” does not fall into this category @dignity . It’s not even close to show tank combat in WW2. It has some good scenes but over all it’s just Hollywood scrap.
btw. The little guy poking out of the Jgd.Pz. 38(t) is either the Commander out of combat or the Loader trying to reload the MG in combat.
Enemy at the Gates takes quite a few liberties with the Zietsev character . . . but of course I guess most movies do. Rachel Weiss makes up for it. 😛 100% agree on Fury, though. Definitely one of the most laughably bad WW2 movies to come out recently. I can’t even watch the Tiger scene, once the Sherman starts “do-si-do” dancing around the Tiger like that.
FFS … we waited decades for a real Tiger in a movie and THIS is what we get?
I’d rather watch Patton fight an army of … Pattons. At least there I get a laugh.
And Shia LaBeouf? Really? **sigh** … Go back to fighting CGI robots.
I’ve no problems with movies twitching here and there some facts. But picking “Fury” as an example for tank warfare in WW2 is… well… BS 😉
On the subject of the Jgd.Pz. 38(t) (or “Hetzer” as it wasn’t officially called) I just wanted to point out, that the Cmd’s position is right behind the gun. Not left of it as it was in most other German tanks at this time.
I have recently re-seen “Downfall”, and I have to agree with Warren in terms of insight into the rotten heart of the Third Reich. It has been an inspiration for my somewhat tragic Last Levy Bolt Action Army. However, for lots of laughs, and great model making, and hence greatest relevance to Beast’s of War, I would recommend the hilarious “Jackboots on Whitehall”.
Happy weekend!
For the new segment, i’d go with “It’s all about the base”. Really love the Micro Arts bases, i have a lot of them and my favorite ones are the “Ancient”. Although they can’t work for indoors, they are perfect for outdoor. Must admit yours are very nice too @warzan .
The Idoneth Deepkin are really cool and i would pick them up if i were to play AoS. Although i do plan to pick up the wrecked ship for Frost Grave Ghost archepelago!
See you guys on XLBS!
WW2 films… did ‘Allo ‘Allo ever have a film? 😉
More seriously, I’ll always have a soft spot for 633 Squadron as the first WW2 movie I remember watching. Also, Mozzies are awesome! 😀
@nekomata: no but Dad’s Army’s had two. 😉
Fav War movie has to be Sahara , its got real M3 Lee tanks in it ,including a shot of one of those strange looking cast hull M3A1 s . As well as some nice footage of the M3 interior , that helps with building the Academy !/35 kit ( and the new Meng or Takom I always mix those two up ) it also got Bogart starring in it .Sure its a bit of a propaganda piece about how we’re all in this war together and all that stuff that seems so alien to us today , did I mention it stars Humprey Bogart ? Nice looking Hetzer from Warlord , but really don’t know why they give you the Berge Hetzer hull with the 20mm AA mount though , only 2 thought to have been built ,. Personally I would have liked to see the Berge Hetzer kitted out , winch , spade ,interior bits , etc . Hm maybe kit bash my own and use the 20mm on the back of an Opal Blitz
Good lord! Favourite WWII movie?? Obviously the sound of music? (Never watched it but I hear them Nazis appear at some point?) Closely followed by Kelly’s Heroes because it’s got Donald Sutherland in it….and big Joe! Where eagles dare was great, as was Tobruk, too late the hero, and what was the one with Roger Moore???? Escape from Athena maybe?
Somebody should have reached over and slapped Justin for only referring to modern films! Although saying that there was a Korean made WWII film called Brotherhood? Think it was a two parter but I remember it being like private Ryan on steroids. That was recent ish?
Oh oh and Guns of Navarone! And anything with David Niven. What about operation petticoat and the pink submarine? Which now I think of it sounds like a porn film?
For favorite WW2 movie, some of it depends.
If Dunkirk counts as a WW2 movie, I’d go with it. The feel of it was a great thing in just how different it was. The desperate evacuation through hell there.
If not, I’d shift to Saving Private Ryan, something that I remember hearing about the battle from my Grandfather, though he wasn’t there for the landings. He was waiting for the beaches to be cleared to get his tank dropped off on the beaches.
The Longest Day, a WWII epic
I really enjoy Enemy at the Gates. It does a great job of showing city fighting, and I though Bob Hoskins did a great job as Khrushchev
WW2 movie, Dirty Dozen…..Telly Sevalas as Pte Maggott – a bible bashing psychopath does it for me every time. Although for more modern movies Hacksaw Ridge is right up there as one of the best. A war movie about a guy who wont touch a weapon.
What about the bridge at Remagen poor George Segel being ordered to attack an obviously pre-demoed bridge with Robert Vaughn trying to get as many troops across before the allies arrive
Gotta be Enemy at the Gates for me. I could watch it again and again. Rachael Weiss doesn’t hurt, either.
It was in contention for my favourite and Rachel Weiss always helps.
The WW2 movie I like the most is The Corporal and Others, because I like the black comedy elements.
Favourite ww2 movie, the longest day, just an awesome film in so many ways.
Best WWII movie ‘Ice Cold in Alex’. It has a good plot, superb acting, gripping action scenes and the Albulance is as iconic as a spitfire. Also it is in black and white and as we all know WWII was fought in black and white!
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There are far to many WW2 films to choose, in fact I would say my favourite changes all the time. Growing up i saw alot of the older black and white and even colour movies repeatedly, longest day, battle of britain, dam busters, above us the waves, bridge of the river kwai, 633…. the list just goes on,
But then some of the more modern films are also up there, flags of our fathers/letters from iwo jima, these two because it shows the same battle from both sides, then there was Defiance, even more recently there is Dunkirk, but at this moment in time my preferred movie is actually one I havent seen mentioned here yet, and thats Hacksaw Ridge, theres just something about it that makes me want to watch it over and over.
This may be heresy, but I’ve never actually liked Saving Private Ryan that much….
Almost forgot my entry!
My favourite WW2 movie is the German movie Stalingrad, especially the scene where they assault the factory. It just has some form of realism and lack of classic heroism that is more typical of British and American WW2 movies.
My favourite film has to be Fury. I just love seeing and hearing that Tiger driving and working. However if it is for all TV like media, Band of Brothers is my all time favourite WWII show.
There were lot of great WWII movies. I’ve always prefered those more serious ones. I agree about Downfall but recent Dunkirk stole the first placein that category in my mind.
I have to say that Midway was very important to me when I grew up. When it came out in theaters they had a special sound system with it called Sensurrround. It helped to put you more into the movie as they jacked up the sound levels during the takeoffs and portions of the movie with the aerial and fighting sequences. At the time it was loaded with big name actors also. Do realize that I was young at the time at it also had more of an impression for that reason too.
Got to agree with Ben. Loved “Where Eagles Dare” since first saw it when I was 10. All that double crossing and crawling around in the snow and a nazi infested castle at night. Even when I saw a spoof of a drunken and overweight Smith and Schaefer on some comedy show, it just made me love it more because the script is just so good! “Kelly’s Heroes “ second and “Bridge Too Far” an honourable third.
A good morning guys and thanks for another fun, crazy and informative show. Not my favorite war film but a very good film and goes along with Blood Red Skies and that would be the 1969 film Battle of Britain. Excellent cast keeping with the atmosphere of using English, Polish and German languages etc. Also when you were talking about the crazy pilots who flew by the seat of their pants and that would have to be the 303 Squadron, a bunch of crazier than a barrel of frogs but bloody good pilots, who also happen to have the highest kill score. A little bit of history my Polish wife told me about a few years back whilst traveling around Poland.
Nice diverse show, like the basing segment – I suggest base desires as a title, another chance to get more @brennon trying to hold it together at the double entondres. Also something I think can really make minis pop.
Favourite ww2 film, that is a tough one – probably Stalingrad by Joseph Vilsmaier, for the stark brutality on the Eastern front. Although there are dozens of others that come with a shout.
Das Boot
If you don’t know what’s coming, what an ending
Those gerries looke quite nice. Urge to do Stalingrad: rising :p
Favourite ww2 movie: I will have to say Saving Private Ryan, since that is the one I know that I’ve seen (I don’t really watch movies, actually. Now, had you asked for a BOOK… I would still have problems, but that would be because I’ve read too many)
Favourite WW2 movie has to be Kelly’s Heroes. It may not be serious but it keeps me coming back again and again and who doesn’t love Odball!
WW2 movie has to be Kelly’s Heroes. Watched when I was a kid back in the 70’s at our village youth club. Nothing like the uproar of laughter from 20ish boys at the German road block.
My first instinct was to say “Bridge too far” without a doubt. All the paratroopers were all real, no CGI. All the tanks real. It just looks so good, plus the actors are brilliant and the over-arching story is amazing….
Or even White Tiger. A Russian movie about a tank commander who was injured and becomes obessed on destroying an “invincible” German tank the Russians called “The White Tiger”. Ok, the tank clearly isn’t a Tiger and is actually a really bad mock up using an IS-2, but that aside, the story is really good and shows more of the tank commanders psychology during warfare. (Not a great war movie, but would recommend at least one watch).
Then @warzan puts a spanner in the works with Downfall. It is such an interesting movie and I agree it really adds to the movie that it is all in German.
Movies that made it no-where near this list…
Fury – Great concept… until the fighting scenes. And they found the only Tiger commander in the German army who didn’t destroy the front tank, then the rear tank in a column so it serves him right to be destroyed.
Starlingrad – Oh, how I wanted this movie to be good. A better showing of the battle of Starlingrad than Enemy at the Gates did… but wow. So much CGI it was like watching a poor anime movie, and I understand it was depicting Russian conscripts and soldiers with limited training as well as hardened veterans, but some of the stuff was painful to watch… And to be honest, Im still not 100% sure what the Search and Rescue scene at the start actually has to do with anything. (However, due to this, Enemy at the Gates is removed from this section).
WWII Movie
Kelly’s Heroes Best movie. Great opening scene and song, Bank robbery, OddBall my favorite WWII character, Sherman’s and of course Tiger Tanks.
Great show guys, keep it up!
hi all Fury for the look at the life of a tank crew,, and bridge too far due to seeing at a film night at school
Top ten WW2 films in reverse order
10 The Monument Men – who doesn’t want to save painting and return them to their rightful owners.
9 The Train – Burt Lancaster leads the resistance to remind us that even when we suffer oppression it is possible to stand up and be counted. Resistance is NOT futile.
8 The Iron Cross – the German lower ranks also suffered at the hands of arrogant officers and the end scenes are really sad and poignant when it comes to how little value was placed on life.
7 The Dirty Dozen – there’s good in even those judged to be bad. Redemption is possible.
6 The Eagle has Landed – watch for Larry Hagman’s comeuppance as an arrogant US officer and how an act of kindness actually leads to the downfall of the Germans.
5 The Eye of the Needle – gripping tale of isolation and survival but is really a murderous love story with Donald Sutherland.
4 The Great Escape – watch for Steve McQueen’s cooler king and poor old Gordon Jackson getting caught out despite being the languages expert.
3 Where Eagles Dare – Xmas and bank holiday staple. Cracking yarn.
2 Saving Private Ryan – for the first 20 minutes when storming the beaches at Normandy, plus Vin Diesel’s sensitive side getting him shot by a sniper.
1 A Bridge too far – all star cast capturing stereotypical characters but highlighting the futility of war through the rushed and ultimate failure of Operation Market Garden. Despite this set back good eventually overcame evil. When you get knocked down, you get up again. That which does not kill us, makes us stronger. Sacrifice sadly has to happen for the greater good.
Also great score for A Bridge too Far… it’s already humming in my head.
Considered but didn’t quite make my top ten: Kelly’s Heroes, Ice Cold in Alex, Sahara, Inglorious Basterds, Dunkirk, Defiance, Fury, The Bulldog Breed, Colditz, The Wooden Horse. This whole task was far too difficult!
After Been abandoned it it’s got to be A Bridge Too Far. An all star cast, quite close to the actual events, even with some dodgy tank subbing. And of course the line, I’m sorry, we don’t have the facilities to take you all prisoner. Was there anything else?
That was some fantastically beautiful miniatures Chris had painted. To me they felt like showcase miniatures each and every one of them… fabulous.
My favorite WWII movie is Casablanca. I especially like it for the waters, but I may be miss informed.
WW2 movie – The Great Escape
Kelly’s Heroes
“I need 60 foot of bridge.”
“Where do I find a hundred guys, just like that?”
been there, built that
Likewise, bridging makes a man of you, a very short man of you, with occasional loss of fingers if you poke them where they shouldn’t be!! Hands on, lift UP!
Best WWII movie ? I really want to say Das Boot but I prefer the series as it better at conveying the feeling of a long patrol at sea.
Of all the others I find it hard to compare films over a 70 year period as they are films of their time. The acid test would be have I sat and watched them again and again and if it was on tonight would I watch it again.
So my favourites are;
Das Boot, Stalingrad, The Cruel sea, Ice cold in Alex, A Bridge too far, Enemy at the Gates, Saving private Ryan for the D Day opener which alone far out weighs the stupid sniper in the church tower scenario.
My favourite WW2 movie changes from time to time. But at the moment it’d have to be Downfall, just the way the filming shows Hitler breaking down more and more and the sheer fanaticism of some of the higher ranking Nazis, combined with the frustration you can see in the generals and the breakdown of discipline of the troops. Great take on the last few days of the German war effort.
Oh, completly forgot to post my favorite WW2 movie: The Great Escape or, Battle of the Bulge!!! Or even the Dirty Dozen… Hard choices indeed! So many great movies out there.
Hard to tell wich one i like the most, they were my 2/3 faves when i was growing up and must’ve watch them a dozen times each 🙂
Kelly’s Heroes is another favorite, of another kind 😉
“A Bridge Too Far” is my choice too, “Force 10 from Navarone”, a very close second and “Kelly’s Heroes” to bring up the end at 3rd place.
My favorite WW2 movie would have to be A Bridge to Far because of the Polish Airborne
Hmm. Favorite WW2 movie. Thats a tough one. Favourite piece of WW2-TV would be easy. Band of Brother. But “just” movies… there are some in different categories:
Comical (if you know some history): Patton
Entertaining: James Ryan (maybe the The Dirty Dozen or The Iron Cross)
Historically best: Downfall
ww2 film has to be kellys heros. just for the shemans playing music coming out tunnel. and ODDBALL
Awesome weekender! Thanks guys. Will watch the XLBS as soon as my phone has charged again. This weekender lwft it all drained 🙂
Best WW2 movie- The longest day — Especially the cliffhanger between part 1 and part 2. There, a german soldier on the Atlantic looks out of the bunker with binoculars and says, “They’re coming …! -and my mother said to me 11 years old boy “You have to go to bed now”…
Warren Drops the Base?
Going to have to go with Das Boot. It was the first film I saw which humanized the German forces really bringing home the view of war from the “man on the ground”, or under the sea in this instance.
Great Show.
Best Movie – The Dam Busters. Great action and a good background on Barnes Wallis.
Favorite WW II film is Das Boot. It was so well filmed with such confined tension.
Happy Weekend everyone, another great show!
Okay Warlord has do the battle for Malta so the canadian get the Knight of Malta
I can’t say I have just one favorite WWII movie, but I have two. My two favorite are The Longest Day and Saving Private Ryan. The Longest Day was the first WWII movie that I ever say. I will never forget finding it gathering dust in the back of the library as a kid. The beautiful two VHS set with its lovely rubber band spine holding the two tape cases together. I have seen that movie more times than I can count. I used to check it out monthly growing up. It really kick charged my interest into WWII and history in general. That leads me to Saving Private Ryan. Having seen The Longest Day so many times I was so very interested when I learned about Saving Private Ryan. I was young when it was in theaters and it hadn’t really hit my radar, but when it aired uncut on TV I was old enough to know what it was and want to see it really bad. Unfortunately my mother wouldn’t let me watch it on TV, but Dad had my back and he recorded it on VHS for me to watch later. However when I sat down to watch it I got to the part where Miller is sitting on the bridge shooting at the Tank on the bridge and then as it explodes my VHS tape ended. So for the first 3 times I saw the movie I never saw the ending. I had to go back to the same library where this all started to finally see the end of the movie.
I’m with Ben’s first choice “A bridge too far” what a film and what a cast! But Kelly’s Heros is a hoot.
Six pages of comments so forgive me if this has been touched on
@dignity Regarding the Irish myth and the character your Wizardry School Cosplay/Larp is going to be based on, ‘Oisin’ is pronounced Uh-sheen as opposed to ‘Oy-sun’.
Justin being the most Irish of us all should know this.
I’m in a Japanese restaurant. It’s fairly quiet. But reading that made me giggle out loud
Thanks for that 🙂 and lets be honest there are some Irish names that are said completely differently from how they are written 🙂
Any time 🙂 Glad to help. Hope I didn’t sound like an ott jerk.
Oh god yes, of course. It’s funny to watch people at immigration or passport control in other countries trying to mouth out names like Caoimhe, Caolon, Caoimhin, Diarmuid, Fiachra…. It goes on and on.
Regional accents don’t help either. A while back at work I took a call from a Kerry dude from the country for a mountain fire. He was un-understandable. That poor mountain…
Being set in a boarding school I thought they would have all been called Frederick or Samantha
my favorite WWII movie got to be Saving Private Ryan, I really loved the opening scene on Omaha beach.. I dont know if call of duty ripe off the movie for the game or it was the other war around.. Also comandos pc game had an amazing mission that was called “saving private smith”, and that was a ripoff! jaja
On the topic of WW2 films. I quite like “Where Eagles Dare”.
“The Heroes of Telemark” also is a firm favourite.
Favourite WWII Film has to be Where Eagles Dare. Watched it so many times when I was young, but the book was fantastic too.
@dracs have you seen the film about Douglas Bader? Reach for the Skies is pretty old now, and it’s been a long time since I saw it but I remember it being very good!
Sorry, it’s just ‘Reach for the Sky’.
Favorite WWII movie?
My first vote would be for the Longest Day, just for the sheer scope and star power, followed closely by Monuments Men. I’ve always felt that the war on culture if you will was never really shown in the movies I’ve seen.
Best WWII movie- “Sahara” with the Grant tank as I am running one for Bolt Action at Briscon 2018 this weekend, gyrostabilised Lt AT gun and Medium hull mounted. Lots of fun shooting in multiple directions! 🙂
My all time favourite war film is easy, CROSS OF IRON. Competition over, nuff said!
Why do I love this movie………let me show you where the iron crosses grow….Steiner, STEINER!!
Those that know, know.
Amen. 😀
For me its a toss up between “The Longest Day” and “Tora, Tora, Tora”, they were my introduction into the genre and even to this day I enjoy watching them with my pops.
Ba Ba Black Sheep, all day every day though, lol
These Deepkin look exciting!
Also, the WW2 movie I like the most is Kelly’s heroes, because it’s funny, and it had a great cast.