Weekender: New Warmachine & Hordes Rules – Privateer Press Interviewed!
April 23, 2016 by lloyd
XXWelcome to The Weekender after our big Salute Live Blog. We're all still a bit shattered right now but we're ready to get stuck into some more hobby with you guys this weekend.
Competition Winners
We have a whole bunch of winners to announce. Firstly, for the Sea Queen from Paranoid Miniatures
Marine101, Maytresix, Minigiant, Horus500, jahatch28
...and secondly for the Flames Of War Pacific Live Blog where you won Signed Gung Ho & Banzai! Books
Andersb80, Zacman22, Smitty14, Lordtothe, Ranger, Ishivia, Basilbrush
If you see your name here make sure to Claim Your Prize and we'll get these goodies winging their way out to you.
World Of Darkness Primer Article
Ben really wanted to draw attention back to an article by Chris Handley that went out last week about The World of Darkness.
This is a really great primer for anyone interested in the dark and horror filled role-playing game so give it a look.
News Time
It's time to dive into some news from this week...
- Age of Sigmar Orruks - They have a new name and some new models too!
- Imperial Knights: Renegade - Will you be taking on the challenge as two Knights clash?
- New Gates Of Antares Models - The Freeborn and the Concord both get some new hovering miniatures
..what caught your eye?
Warmachine & Hordes MK III Interview!
With the BIG news that Warmachine & Hordes are going to be switching over to a new edition of the rules with a revamped way of doing things in terms of their Battlegroup Boxes we had to have a chat with Privateer Press.
William Shick sat down for a chat about the changes they've been making and where it all started.
The Best Of Salute 2016
We couldn't go a Weekender without mentioning Salute. It was an amazing time and we talk about some of the awesome stuff that we saw and did over that mental day in London.
Kickstarters
What Kickstarters are up and running?
- Ghostbusters II The Board Game - Want to go busting some ghosts based on the second film?
- Rum & Bones: Second Tide - A new version of the game with additional crews and much more besides.
- Mythos - Dawn chats about one of her favourite games of the moment.
Remember to check out our big interview with Paranoid Miniatures about Mythos HERE.
What will you be backing?
Join us tomorrow for The Weekender XLBS with a Free Backstage Trial
Have a great weekend!
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Morning y’all
Happy Weekend! Nice to see you guys survived the last one!
Really enjoyed the news section this week, it seems like Salute really got to you guys, have a good rest now that your back.
Happy weekend to everyone!
Saw you all any Salute – great fun but I do not think you stopped running the whole day!
Big thumbs up for seeing Dawn on the show! 😀 😀 😀
@oriskany, Awwww thanks, Jim!
Good morning all. If this day feels special but you can’t figure out why it’s because it is my birthday. Thank you in advance for all your warm wishes lol. As soon as I saw the headline about the PP interview I thought to myself ‘I hope it’s with Will’, and lo it is. Looking forward to watching that one. He’s a very interesting guy to chat Warmachine with. I learnt a lot about how the game is put together from him.
Happy Birthday mate! 🙂
Cheers fella 🙂
Great interview with Will. Four years spent writing and testing the rules, making sure the game works at every level for every type of player. There’s the bar.
happy birthday bud hope you have a great one 🙂
HAPPY REDBEN DAY !!
The “Redben’s Day” speech from Henry V . . .
*ahem* …
“If we are marked to lose our games, we are not to do our club loss;
And if to win, the greater share of honour!
Rather proclaim it, Beasts of War, through our community,
That he which has no stomach for these games, let him depart.
His passport shall be made! And crowns for taxi fare back to the airport put in his purse;
We would not game in that man’s company, that fears his fellowship to game with us!
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers and sisters,
For those today who throw dice with me is my brother and sister.
And gentlemen at home still in bed who missed the Weekender
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here!
And hold their manhoods cheap … whiles any speaks that gamed with us!
Upon Redben’s Day!
This is verbatim what Hank 5 said. Verbatim.
‘Tis the weekend following “The Weekend”! What pastiming fares dost thou put before us?
Finally, a weekender! A weekend is just not the same without the weekender. Though it would be even better if Justin had a beard again.
I’ll maybe grow it back after next month 🙂
Guys the “Court Room Ghosts” you were talking about is the Scoleri Brothers, which are there. They are all electrified as they were executed by the electric chair in the film.
Haha you beat me to it. “The Scoleri Brothers!” “Friends of yours?” “I tried them for murder! Gave them the chair!”
Good to have you back, a weekend without a weekender isn’t a good weekend! 😉
you went to blackpool and didnt say anything! i can see the big one from my front room 🙁 good to have the weekender back on
Those old Pleasure Beach rides are scary. It’s the plaques that get me “opened 1927, last service 1928”. Terrifying!
New Warmahordes looks splendid. I’ll be watching that interview a second time.
Rum n Bones 2 looks like a lot of fun, I’m not all that familiar with Dota style games, but I think I understand the mechanic enough to get how it works. There are a few days left so I might have a go on this one.
the main idea is that its your heroes that turn the tide of battle and create those heroic moments that you’ll chat about later, i got to play this while the guys from cool mini were over and i really enjoyed it 🙂
It just seems like such a dumb waste to have such a huge show, Salute that is, and just have it for half a day.
It’s beyond the capacity of the South London Warlords to run it for two days. They’re just a gaming club whose annual show has blown up beyond all proportion. Plus they would have the added problem of the cost increasing to get the extra day, but not every vendor would book for both days. I think the hire cost is already over £100,000 as it is.
EDIT: Missed out that not every attendee would go for both days, which is a bigger cost problem for the venue hire.
First off Happy Birthday @redben
Yeah Salute is a big one day show but there are plenty of other shows on around the UK that the manufacturers go to including some 2 day ones. A lot of traders will tell you that on 2 day shows the Sundays are usually quite quiet though easier to look round if your a punter
Here’s a list of them though not sure how comprehensive it is
http://www.bhgs.org.uk/calendar.html
There are but not to the same cost as going to Salute for both days. Not just because the hire is expensive but paying an extra night’s accommodation and expenses in London for everyone working the stand. Though as I caught in the edit, the bigger problem is the attendees. The entrance tickets cover the bulk of the hire cost for a one day show. There would need to be the same amount of people through the door again on the second day to make it viable, and that’s assuming no discounted weekend tickets.
It maybe be a misunderstanding but I guess what I was getting at is that people could support their own local shows rather than making the over expensive trip to London once a year
I see what you mean. Personally I do get to my local shows. I go to the Newcastle, Durham, and York shows every year. Get to Scarborough now and then. Travelling to bigger shows is in addition to this. I have noticed the Durham and Newcastle shows getting smaller as Salute gets bigger. I’m not sure its so much that people are going to Salute instead of them, as it is that their momentum is going in opposite directions. Durham and Newcastle are small shows that attract the same small and limited pool of vendors each year. You know who’s going to be there and you can mail order anything you want at any time anyway. There’s never new stuff to see or new companies getting a stall. That hinders the incentive to go every year, which shrinks attendance, which causes fewer vendors to come, and so on in decreasing circles. Conversely, Salute attracts a huge number and there’s always new stuff. That in turn attracts punters and the two things feed upwards off each other.
hey! happy weekend guys! hellow to DAwn good to see you in W. love!
@brennon the battle of Folkviken did not have any Saxons in it, it where interscandinavian the fight about being archbishop in Lund for all of Scandinavia
Maybe Mantic need to take a leaf out of CMON books so all my Deadzone stuff isn’t worthless.
@hithero – Deadzone 2 isn’t going to invalidate your miniatures or terrain, which I presume is the great bulk of your Deadzone collection. Sure the rules and cards will be out of date, but Mantic’s replacements in version 2 are hardly likely to be expensive. Which is pretty much what CMON are doing with Rum n Bones.
Good to have the Weekender back and to see that everyone survived Salute and the evenings entertainment. A nice spread of subject matter this week, looking forward to the XLBS tomorrow.
I was delighted to watch the interview with Will from Privateer Press, and to learn that there will be more Warmachine and Hordes coverage on Beasts of War over the next few months. Mark III was absolutely the right choice in terms of combining all the rules for the new model types (Battle Engines, Gargantuans, and Colossals) in the core books, streamlining the basic system, rebalancing the game, and offering new playstyles. If you have not tried Warmachine and Hordes yet, I agree with Justin: dive in when the new battleboxes are released in June.
As an aside, one of the changes I most like is the increase in Warjack and Warbeast points, which will encourage players to put more down on the table. As a Cryx player, I love my infantry swarms, but with the improvements to Warjacks with the new Power Up rule (each ‘Jack gains a focus point automatically simply from being in the Warcaster’s Control Area), I am looking forward to running multiple Leviathans and Inflictors (as well as staples such as Deathjack and Nightmare).
great
Greate show, nice to see female crew for a change
Yes, the Scoleri brothers are the ghosts from the courtroom. Great seeing Dawn on the show. She needs to be a regular guest host.
Dawn is a great addition to the team. I am so glad that she has been championing ‘Mythos’. I hope that the Kickstarter, as a minimum, unlocks the Wildborn faction.
Happy Saturday! Even being several thousand miles away from home hasn’t stopped me getting my weekly dose of gaming news 🙂 Hope everyone in the UK is enjoying the cool weather, while I have to put up with the 30C + temperatures here in Bali 😀
Great to see @deltagamegirl22 on the show chatting about Mythos,.
Salute was both as awesome and tiring as the guys portray and whilst i was not drinking the night before just watching and laughing, its a hats off to the guys for sheer stamina alone i would have put money on that all three would be dead for the day on Saturday.
Great talking to Dawn and Gianna over the weekend, i even managed to get my hands on a Jezebel although im still pondering colour schemes and basing options before even beginning work on her.
Highlight of the show – The amazing atmosphere everyone is chatty vendor, visitor it doesn’t matter you can talk hobby at all levels get guidance advice and great products.
Funniest moment – @warzan on Friday evening giving his ta da pose to state he was W******* when everyone already knew due to his level of burbling priceless.
Only Disappointment – No Modelmates stand unlike previous year 2015. a big part of my shopping list although i did manage to find some partially hidden on another stall.
Glad to hear moment – Sam @dracs safe and sound clear of the Japan earthquakes, lucky because he was offered a job working in what would have become the thick of the devastation. i think he has a string of 1’s from the dice gods heading his way to balance the books.
@wolf320f I missed having model mates there as well. Look forward to resupplying every year.
Shame pp don’t give a toss about fans who have no lgs and are being forced to subsidize those who do. SSDD privateer workshop
Aren’t they allowing online sales as long as they don’t price gouge?
Yeah they are. The maximum discount allowed is 10%. This will help the lgs compete with online retailers who potentially have lower overheads and do not provide an area to play.
PP are limiting to 10% discount. If online decide to breach that then their distributor and hence them will get a delay on all new releases. Its a mechanism to support lgs that promote the game. I know Discount Games do a lot for the community, but most don’t. So I don’t know how that is a negative thing.
Salute was awesome and glad to see the team enjoyed it too.
Invested in too many games to get involved in Warmachine & Hordes, cult of the shiny victim here, but still enjoyed the coverage and will look forward to the updates and any videos on the new version as they come out.
I loved the GhostBuster films and the kickstarter looks interesting.
Great to see Dawn on the show. The miniature looked awesome and seeing the process from art to miniature was really enlightening.
Looking forward to the XLBS show tomorrow.
Great weekender.
I’m really looking forward to Warmachine Hordes 3E! By all I’ve seen and heard about so far, it seems like it will be accessible to a broader range of gamers than ever before and less difficult for new people to get started with. I like that they will be better covering casual and narrative gaming instead of just being focused on tournament gaming all the time. I, and I’m sure many others, are very interested in being able to make our own custom characters. While you could always do your own thing with agreeable friends, I’m glad PP has something official in the works for making your own custom warcasters/warlocks, etc.
I also like the suggestion that Mk3 will scale better too, and may be more playable on smaller tables. I’ve always preferred smaller games, but 25 – 35 point games in Mk2 were very difficult to balance.
I agree. I like the small games as well as the larger games.
Great show guys! I agree with @dignity – the highlight for me really was the meeting people. That includes backstagers I’d met last time, those I met for the first time this time, some of my team mates from the Dropzone Commander Invasion tournament and some of the BoW crew themselves!
It was also amazing seeing so many cool tables, games, miniatures and spending entirely too much money…
Loving all of the stuff i’ve heard about the new edition of Warmachine.
Also, The gorilla glue gel is rather nice. It’s become my goto glue for mini’s. You should definitely give it a go.
Looking forward to MKIII Warmahordes! It’s going to be very hard deciding to push on with an existing faction or start a new one from scratch. Maybe both, both is good haha.
Cool to see Dawn on a weekender to. Maybe she could Skype in with Ben from time to time?
Good to see Dawn on the show. She has done a fantastic job both covering adepticon and salute. Definitely needs some hobby downtime. We appreciate the coverage though, thanks team.
Yeah, weekend time, listening to the team chat away while I paint…. ceilings :-l
Great to @deltagamegirl22 on the show 🙂
The World of Darkness primer article by @doctorether was great. Back in the 90’s my group used to play Werewolf, Vampire and a little Changeling.
I’d also like to thank the team again for the coverage of Salute.
Thanks. We are just finishing up the next article on the difference between WoD and CofD in terms of rules and tone/mood/scale. After than will be a guide to “where to begin” for the games, given it is not always obvious.
Of course, not mentioned in the the episode are two other podcasts related to Darker Days Radio. Midnight Express is our WoD specific sister show hosted by some guests hosts of DD. And then there is Network Zero, a CofD specific podcast that I recently started.
Lloyd: Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to visit Silverwood Theme Park north of Coeur d’Alene, Idaho. It’s not a huge theme park, but it’s well-equipped with coasters. They’re NOT 200 years old, not even the wooden coasters. It also has a water park. http://www.silverwoodthemepark.com/
I recommend it even though I worked there for 3 seasons.
Also, “Tothe” rhymes with “cloth.” *shakes fist*
Hey guys I just wanted to stop by and say thank you so much for your kind words on the video, especially Dawn it was lovely to meet you at Salute and My Jezebel has pride of place next to my Sea queen. To clarify the ‘story by Gareth Brierley’ part of the Warren Wolfe picture, he was the guy that commissioned the piece as a present for Warren and seeing as I was going with a pulp vibe I thought I’d get his name in there. That said, Warren Wolfe would make a cool character eh Gaz @noyjatat?
Happy sunday!
@andersb80 – is your name what I think it is?
Happy weekend guys!
Happy bday @redben 🙂
I am also so into Warmachine @dignity and actually also a Cygnar player. I have already preordered the Cygnar battle box but also went for Cryx!
Great show, hyped for mkIII – devil will be in the detail but all the reveals so far have me very optimistic.
Maybe it’s because I’m on my mobile and not my laptop, but I can only see the first 2 winners from each competition… (Obviously I’m hoping my username is one of the lucky few) however can anyone elaborate for me as to who the winners are for the FOW books? Cheers!