Weekender XLBS: Building Tanks, Hobby Rooms, Warbands & Legions Of Rome
December 13, 2015 by lloyd
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Now my Sunday can officially begin.
Sure sign that I have stayed up too late on Saturday night painting my Team Yankee Boot Camp T-72s … the Sunday XLBS is already up. 😐
Happy Sunday!!!
Happy Sunday!
The Luftwaffe rocket troops for Dust are new. I’ve not played with them yet but I understand their rules will be different from the Allied jump troops.
Happy Sunday
“who could be afraid of aquaman” who could be afraid of a between wonder woman and superman strength level, nearly invulnerable, telepathic barbarian king?
Who’s domain is 75% of the planets habitable territory that he protects more or less on his own, whilst the rest of the world has hundreds of heroes to defend it…..
If Ben really wants to play a board game based on trucking, I’d recommend The Great Heartland Hauling Co.that came out a couple years ago.
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/111417/great-heartland-hauling-co
Well that ending was random 😛
I thought it was a bit brilliant
Anyone else have the video just stop just after 27 minute mark?
yeh just cut for me too at that time
yep just did it at 27:43mins
Glad it wasn’t just me.
The video stopped, but it kept running and then carried on after a few seconds.
justin its two magnets, at about 36sec mark on the vid you clearly see him stick two washers to it lol, happy sunday!
Yes had issues around 27 minute mark.. Got going again about 29 minutes. Great ending!!! Poor Ben
@ Justin some one need to get you a panzer 4 1/35 From Dragon ..
Ahhh – feel sorry for Ben – after all our hobby is our hobby 🙂 I’m with John on the whole modern warfare thing but that’s a personal choice and something we’ve gone over before on this site so not an argument I want to start up again. Happy sunday all.
How long did it take Ben to notice
@lloyd 15mm is pretty standard for Ancients so there is a lot of stuff out there and the usual basing tends to be 4 figures per base or three for cavalry.
However still looks even better at 6mm 😉
ok i should have watched more…lol
yes there are a lot of 6mm ancient stuff Baccus do some amazing 6mm Romans
https://www.baccus6mm.com/catalogue/TheRomans/EarlyImperialRome/
@johnlyons including transfers
To jump onto the 6mm bandwagon, here’s a link to my 6mm ACW 🙂 Awesome scale, really gives the feeling of mass to an army and also paints quick!
http://s25.photobucket.com/user/Neves77/library/ACW%206mm?sort=3&page=1
Lovely work
My XLBS got stuck at 15 minutes! Now enjoying a frozen still of Justin and John
Justin is wrong! Simple
ancient armies look fantastic in a shield wall so the shields are very important. Pick figures that you can get transfers for http://www.littlebigmenstudios.com/catalog/index.php
6mm ancients Baccus does a huge range but painting them is a little soul destroying I’m my opinion.
10mm Pendraken, Magister Millitum, Old Glory and Newline designs do ancients. some of these are just as good as 15mm miniatures and are half the price.
In 15mm you are split for choice and you still have flank charges and manoeuvring on a normal 6×4 board. 28mm ancients is just like fantasy games at the same scale, you move forward and that’s it unless you have a massive board like 10×6. You can still play hail Caesar at any scale you just need to reduce the ranges.
I hope that helps
Painting 6mm is only soul destroying if you try and paint them like larger scales
I sadly havn’t done it in a while, but 6mm painting is the opposite of soul destroying. You can plough through your painting backlog and churn out units really quickly. You don’t sit down for a painting session with 28mm and stand up again with a finished unit very often!
And of course, with some simple techniques you can make the scale look really cool.
Brilliant!
Definitely the best plan to go for anytime someone starts talking about… zzzz… moving… zzzz… cargo…. zzzz…
Huh? What? Where am I?
Oh yeah.
Anyway, I’m in total agreement with Lloyd and John about half-arsing the Roman legions – you’ve got to do it properly.
P.S. Base those ogres, Justin!
Great show guys, and that ending was hilarious.
I used to have a 15mm Early Imperial Roman army back when I was playing Field of Glory. The shield transfers are pretty easy to put on and as the systems at that scale tend to abstract a lot of troops onto a base then it isn’t that many models you need. Ancient battles tended to be fought on open spaces, and at the smaller scale the opportunities for nice looking tables tend to be for modelling in contours and hills and whatnot. Alternatively, you could model a siege such as the one at Alesia.
I completely agree with Lloyd on the aesthetics on Dust and how they should at least resemble the period of time. Dust has become interesting to me all of a sudden after just finishing the new Wolfenstein games and I just fell in love with the aesthetic and designs of the the German equipment which surprised me because I love history a lot and often over look pulpy or Weird World War type stuff in favor of historical stuff.
However I think you would be interested to know Lloyd in response to having vehicles from WW2 in dust to tie it in with the setting, the “Artillary Tractor” you referred to in the picture is an actual vehicle. It was used in 1944 for field testing by several German units and went by the name of the “Pak40 RSO”. It was an Anti-Tank tractor essentially that was tested as a stop gap vehicle.
Here is a quick link to a military model website which has a few pictures and information on the model kit and the subject it replicates:
http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/dragon/dr6640.html
Hope you find it helpful!!
My wife is currently watching a repeat of last nights X-Factor, Thank you BoW for saving me from the hell that is Simon Cowell and Chums!
Happy Sunday – I have seen ancients in 6 mm – time permitting I would love to do a Vikings/Saxons army in that scale to make it look like a real battle rather than a skirmish at 28 mm
Now that was funny 🙂
Hilarious folks, best possible exit ever 😎 truly epic!
Poor Ben tho but I’m sure he’s still talking and still hasn’t realised..
I’m really tempted by those Romans as well. I’ve starterd so many attempts in 28mm but never finished a single one. 15s are so much faster to paint and the transfers seem really easy.
But what I see as greatest advantage is to have everything needed in one package, not too pricey and not taking too much space.
I think I’ll give it a go.
Not worried about scenery too much as there is more for 15mm than ever before and for scenarios in Britannia you need only trees and maybe a farm or odd temple. Building Hadrians Wall in 15mm should be a piece of cake as well 😎
Yes, the statue is a LOTR chess piece. Currently trying to find more cheap on eBay.
What about Prince August?
Actually you can get lots of small knights in static poses in castle gift shops I know they have them in Carrick and I am sure I have seen them in Downpatrick museum there only abourpt a pound and would probably paint up OK for smaller statues
Good ideas @torros
The trucking simulator sounds oddly compelling. I’d love it but I doubt I could convince anyone I know to feel the same 😉
Our history teacher at school ran a war gaming club, where we played a 15mm American Civil War game, it really was great, lots of skirmishing and canons firing – the romans look really great fun and I’m seriously tempted.
Happy Sunday…
Airbrushing Lloyd, that’s what you need for the shading on those animated Batman figures.
Justin gives us another Carl Pilkington moment with his understanding of magnets 😉
You gotta love the ‘switching the polarity’ moment I’m still crying here lol
Straight out of an episode of Galaxy Quest lol
I’m disappointed guys – nobody commented on Justin’s bases – looks like that unit has been ‘deleted’ and is just about to be swallowed into a black void that’s opened beneath their feet!
…but I’m with Justin on the painting of that many 15mm Romans. Life’s not long enough!
Spending time on the front row and their shields, with subsequent rows a notch down on the painting ladder makes perfect sense. heck I’ve even done similar with 28mm ranks of Empire!
… providing the bases aren’t left black though! Even a slap of green paint – or brown with basic grass flock will take anything up 2 notches in appearance – even those KoW Ogres!
The problem is using most ancient rules you Base figures up in units if four so doing it Justins way looks crap in 15mm.
That said in 6mm it’s a technique I have seen used to great effect. Not my style but each to their own.
wouldn’t worry about hedges @lloyd – societies like the Celts just used them differently to the likes of the Romans. Roman latifundia (the enormous agrarian estates where they’d have hundreds if not thousands of slaves) would use ditches and hedges as field boundaries. Rome as you’d expect did things on a massive scale. For the Celts and the Germans it;s a bit more hit and miss. Some tribes had a focus on agriculture using slaves etc just on a much smaller scale (tribes of southern Britain not a bad example) whereas for a great many others, the countryside was a patchwork of forests, rivers and mountains interspersed with small clearings where little villages would be found, Agriculture more of a smaller scale, almost allotment sort of thing for a great many people – little farmsteads, subsistence farming with any extra being sold at the market. Particularly in the windswept north it was cattle that was the money maker, especially where it was difficult to plant crops like barley. When you’re dependent on herds for a living, you don’t use hedges the same way, you use them as modern dairy farmers would, enclosing a vast expanse of grass, you then line your roads and lanes to make it easier to move your herd from one field to another. Whilst you wouldn’t see the enormous grain fields that’s not to say you wouldn’t see a carefully managed landscape designed to suit the practices of the native peoples. Would definitely like to see some ancients coverage and as John pointed out, 15mm does sound like a good scale. Love 28mm but try fielding a 5,500 man strong Roman Legion, not gonna happen at 28mm scale haha
Really really enjoyed todays XLBS and no where near as much kickstarting content and what there was was ace. I am sorry but usually when the kickstarters are terribly in depth I know where all different but it can get a little like poor old Ben and his lorries and just leave or start something else whilst they are on just in case there is something we missed ourselves during the week. A single cold cup of coffee show. Brilliant that all shows should be so good.
Agree with you on the kickstarters sometimes they drone on endlessly or seem to..lol
The Romans do look really look sweet. Painting the smaller scales, washes can really are you friend. When i painted my UCM infantery, the wash just made all the details come to life.
For me Klear future washes are your friend for any scale
It was mainly during the Trajan campaign that Rome really came up against Dacia. Due to the power of the Falx and the fact that troops armed with it could pierce the usually unprotected arms or the Legionnaires that the Romans to put extra banding on their helmets and the troops issued with the manica (gladiator arm armour) to help protect them further. The Dacians had quite a lot of success against the Romans with the Dacians, with the histories commenting that the Dacians could easily go toe to toe with the Legions and be successful
@dignity … stupid boy …
Out of context quote of the day:
Llyod: “My butt seems to take all the action”
17:55
Somebody made a MEME out of this one yet?
You should absolutely frost your ruins of daldorr up and produce some Frostgrave stuff!!
very funny :o) have a good day one and all
Great episode. Keep on trucking Ben!
15mm is the way to go for ancients in my mind… Perhaps have a look at the DBx family of rules?
Nooooooooooooooooooo
I still wake up in a sweat thinking about Charlie pushing them towards me at the slayers way back in the day!
LOL.
I can’t wait to see Roman trains !!
Aqueducts maybe ? But I so think you should run with the trains idea
when you get the garage watertight invest in a good tape measure and some masking tape to mark out your ideas that way you get to walk about the space see if the dimensions work and iron out any tight areas before work begins. you also have the luck of having a tamed joiner so the sky is the limit.
happy sunday…..well it is now
Afternoon
Is @brennon still talking about Truck Simulator?
Pop back on Wednesday and ask again then…
Possibly the best ending to an XLBS ever, I almost fell sorry for Ben, almost
Happy Sunday!
Best finale EVER! lol
Happy..! Why’s Ben so small?
Really tempted by 15mm Romans.. I’d been considering doing 1/72 scale…but these from West Wind do look really nice..and the terrain pieces are really pushing me towards 15mm
There are plenty of makers. Personally the Imperial Romans shown here don’t float my boat but earlier stuff so would look at Xyston miniatures
Like Rob I do prefer 6 or 10mm for my ancients though
Poor Ben, first he gets lumbered with the traitor marines, then he’s deserted at the end, lol. 😀
Where’s the link to cargomaster? :p
Mhahahahaahahahaahahahaha – please tell me Ben didn’t know this was happening and it will make my day. Hilarious 🙂
For John, the Hail Cesar rules are multi-scale. It’s just the Warlord team’s preference to play and sell models for it at 28mm.
Oh crap, my left arm’s gone…
Best ending to a show ever!
I,m afraid i,m too old to paint 15mm. I,ve my FOW germans primed, but that,s all. At one meter they seem right.
Now I,m trying 28mm, Bolt and Antares, and with the help of a big magnifying lamp I,m managing to get some results.
Not to mention corretions a lot because of my shaking hands.
Well Justin, if you can’t beat them join them. =D
On the other hand that conversion is lovely and you know that necessity is the mother of invention.
I’ll just have to bring something else to the table next time to counter them.
I won’t touch anything from Dust Sudios and Battlefront with a 10 feet pole forever… As nice as the new Dust stuff looks, I am still waiting 1.5 years for more than 65% of my Kickstarter stuff ($1,500). The so-called wave 2 didn’t even include my Premium German Starter Set… I am glad that Lloyd has remembered it in this XLBS. And as much as I would like to invest into Team Yankee, Dust Studios fucked-up this Kickstarter not alone. No Battlefront products for me forever (and 4 friends of mine as well).
Ironically, the Dust Kickstarter brought me to Beasts of War (never heard of the site before) with the rule download offer. So at least the whole issue had one positive outcome…
Other than that: Interesting XLBS as always 🙂
Im of much the same mind as you on this, though not as much financially. For me it just killed my interest in the game, too much of a bitter taste in my mouth.
I would liked to have seen both parties pay more consideration to the backers, Rather than run for the hills and their next projects (more Dust stuff and Team Yankee), laughing manically with the large sacks “$$$” slung over their shoulders. Feels very much like a V to the backers.
No more of my money to Dust, Battlefront or its subsidiaries, looking at you Gale Force 9
Happy Sunday!
Nice ogres @dignity
@cell68 I feel with you. I had some bad experiences over the years on KS, but having something established and known as DUST be destroyed by a KS is cruel.
a interesting & glitchy show with @lloyd turning into Forest Gump thank god he didn’t start showing everyone his butoxs.
so is ben still going?
Happy Sunday! What a great weekender guys, thanks a lot. If you start this 15mm Roman project @lloyd I’ll have to dig out the box of Early Imperial Romans from my basement and paint them too 🙂 They are from Corvus Belli by the way and look not so complicated to be honest. What rule set do you recommend to play in this setting?
hehe great exit guys!
Best ending ever. Lol.
@dignity aka Justin,erm after the whole ‘You dirty flockers’ base those mini’s man your depriving them of there true splendor they could achieve in life.
Epic ending, and +1000 kudo points to @brennon for being a great sport (I hope) about this. 😀 I think my favorite part was @lloyd in the background “Uh-huh . . . sounds interesting . . . Okay . . .”
@lloyd, that’s going to be a cool man cave. When will Justin (@destiny) have it all sorted for you 😉
it will be awesome!
If I can find him 6 men he should have in done in no time lol
oh and it’s @dignity – Your Destiny on the brain 😉
hahahahahaha what a spanner @dignity, sorry Justin
we need to hi the tower asap!
I’m with John in the WW2 vs Modern Warfare comparison. I’d gladly collect an army of slouch hat, short wearing Anzacs, than a modern army any day. They just have more character imo.
Justin spice up those bases man! If they’re going to be your delete unit, you’ve got to give them some flash.
That ending was brilliant! For the life of me I have no idea why anyone would ever subject themselves to Driving Simulators. Unless it’s for people who want to go for a drive but don’t want to pollute, or want to road rage without pesky criminal charges laid on them afterwards .
“Is a man in Shorts Scary?”
Ask the Rhodesians. 😉
Amazing closing guys!
Dear god, that was too funny! Poor Ben. 🙂
hheheheh that was the best ending ever made by BOW!!
I LOVED the ending boys!
That was the best ending ever!!!!! Awesome!!!! LMMFAO!
Ben….you’re the best! The ending made my day. Thanks for the laughs, much needed.
I so wanted to Laugh at that ending…. however there’s Ben going on about a Game that is about.. well my Job of the last 15 years…
What an exit lol!