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Cult Of Games XLBS: A Hobby Love-In! Where Do You Fall On The Tabletop Venn Diagram?
November 21, 2021 by avernos
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Happy Sunday OTTers!
It’s the XLBS Show…………Happy Sunday Fellow CoGs!
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The Salute coverage was great. Well Done OTT crew!
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Well Earned Golden Buttons! I really need to get a copy of ‘Who Goes There’s.
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I would say my favorite part of the hobby is constructing. Both stories of the games ( back stories or reason for the scenario being played out),and models (buildings, surroundings, trees, vehicles, ect ect).
Dammit! I really wanted to be first this week but, wouldn’t you know it, I’m not even the first Australian!
Wow, this really is a WoW moment. You two are Australian and I’m from Kansas the original land of ‘OZ’. ?? Three ‘OZ’ in a row. HaHa, I love it!
Happy Sunday from Germany – It’s very early in the morning here, the sun isn’t up, yet.
On the hobby venn-diagram I’d fall somewhere in the middle, because I really love all three aspects. I love gaming and coming up with thematically sound and at the same time fun to play and effective lists, I also love building and I convert as well as customize many of my minis – even the lowliest troops – and I love painting and I paint up all my teams, squads and armies to a display standard or more. So, I guess I’m a die-hard hardcore hobbyist… 😀
Happy Sunday!
Happy Sunday all.
Great work on the WWX Justin ?
Board games, war games, card games all are great with the right company and a great way to spend a evening or weekend after a stressful week of the real world.
Happy Sunday! An interesting question posed this week, as you say it’s been asked before but whenever you do it’s an opportunity to rebaseline your priorities. I sometimes find when hobby goes a bit stale, investing more time into a different area can be invigorating! For me, the three circles are like 3 legs on a stool. Take one away and the stool comes down. That said, if I were absolutely FORCED into taking two legs away, creating some shooting-stick, monopod kind of seating apparatus, then gaming would be the first leg to be turned into matches. That’s the easiest one. I game quite rarely in reality, even though I think about it a lot, and only paint gaming models with an intention to use them. Then it gets tougher. I’m tempted to say lose painting and keep the narrative, because without narrative I’d just be an “artist” and I’m really not an artist. But without the models, you’ve just got fiction. And there’s plenty of that out there.
So on that basis, and completely unexpectedly, the fact that I can’t easily separate painting and narrative means that if forced to keep only one, I’d have to keep gaming. I’d keep the thing I currently do the least. I guess I’d do more of it. And that is an interesting conclusion!!
I sort of fall out side all those parameters mentioned and sit in a small circle at the bottom left of the page labelled Has done f**k all since lockdown
You and me both! I mean I bought more but with new kid and moving house, hobbying has not been on the agenda (so I was told anyway!)
Great show folks, and congratulations to the worthy Golden Button winners!
I really like the painting side of the hobby, but I also enjoy the research for historical gaming. I enjoy gaming but that’s just the end part of the whole process. Not being able to meet up and play hasn’t been an issue over the last 12 months or so, whilst I’ve missed gaming with friends it’s not been a major loss. I’ve still been able to paint and read around my projects I’ve been working on.
Great subject. I enjoy painting and the project system and the potential for Golden Buttons and likes and comments keep me motivated and on schedule for my own flexible deadlines. I also love the head cannon, the lore, the potential for backstory ideas for characters, the kitbashing minis to be WYSIWYG for a certain game and the narrative way of list building. The idea of min-maxing perfect lists or copying a successful tournament list leaves me cold and creatively unsatisfied. I am a bit of a collector too. Mainly seeing something cool I want to paint but not having a game for that vehicle or miniature to be played in.
I also watch over a Saga Facebook page with just over 1000 members, and this has highlighted to me that I am quite needy and very photo upload focused. I don’t feel a mini is truly finished until it has its picture taken and up on an appropriate Facebook page and Instagram. Not sure that’s healthy, but my only plus point is that whether it gets 10 likes or 100 I am not obsessing over that. More that it has become part of my process to always upload.
Going to a gaming club gave me license to buy more because it felt I would actually “get my money’s worth” out of the playing side. I realize now that I need to curb this idea as it isn’t truly where I get most fun and I am rubbish at most of the games I play. I still enjoy playing but should not let that enable some foolish purchases. I think not being great at playing games why I like Walking Dead so much. I do actually understand and play quite well, but even against a better player the events are usually dramatic enough by the late game to throw anyone’s initial plans out of the window regardless of clever list building ahead of the game.
Thanks for the catch up at Salute and I am already looking forward to April.
Happy Gaming.
Welcome back 🙂
I gots my coffee and xlbs happy man ?
I’d like to think I fit into all three of those hobby wheels but I haven’t gamed in about 3 years ( that wasn’t tabletop simulation . I’ve still collected ( the pile of shame and forgotten dreamed projects ) hopefully get to game sometime next year still taking precautions for a family member … because of the EVENT last year
* looking over at the hobby desk and shudders *
Hi COGz they missed FOMO on the pie charts?
Gerry’s happy place full of models an Guinness??!?
Wibbaly Wobbly timey wimmie?
Happy Sunday
00:00 Face? oO
Anyhow… today (almost) no cometary from we. Just watch and enjoy the show…
58:00 Empty vessel… Oh My!
1:05:00 Pie….
1:18:00 BATTLE REPORTS!
Nice show… now I need to think about what pie I want and what hobbyist I will cut… or something…
Free makes the terrain tables an John/Justin does the figures??
Happy Sunday.
Some lovely projects there with some well deserved golden buttons.
Although I really love the gaming aspect, in the last two years I’ve really gone back to loving the hobby aspect the most. Maybe because of the lockdown. Seeing it all come together at the end can be quite the reward, knowing that you did all of that yourself.
Gerry is OTT’s father Jack?
Love the fluff you got to love the fluff it brings the game to life in my opinion.
I love the button winner’s but at the same time the devil in me’s saying they are way better than your own efforts AAaaagh.
A fab fun show guy’s.
Justin: I smashed them out with contrast
Gerry: sky earth NMM
Crikey
Happy Sunday lovely people! I’m with you Ben. I’ve been off and on in this Hobby since 1988. I have played a handful of games in that time. I love the research, background lists etc as much as painting. The Hobby in the late 80s was about community and collecting. Now it’s about mental health. I don’t have the shame of not “finishing” an army. A gathering of terrain, miniatures and vehicles is happiness to me now.
Happy Sunday,
Now time for the GReatest movie ever made.
Lovely to have the XLBS show back, and to hear what the gang have been up to in their hobby time.
Interesting question on the venn diagram of wargaming ?.
The ultimate objective for everything I do is ‘the game’. I can’t bring myself to paint anything that I don’t imagine using in game at some point. That being said, the game part is definitely the thing on which the least time is spent. I really enjoy the historical research aspect. Physicals evidence suggests that I am a huge collector of stuff. Building and painting are a huge fag, but I do quite enjoy it, even though it takes soooo long. Once it does finally get the game, then I am not that bothered about actually playing it. I like to run games, and am happy for other people to play them. I completely agree with the game = story discussion.
I think, on reflection, I find history an amazing story, and wargaming is a fascinating way to explore that story. All the different aspects: research, collecting, build+painting, and gaming, are part of creating the story. I love they way they blend together, and I can’t imagine leaving out any part.
Great topic. I’ve been into all aspects of the hobby at one stage or another. I’ve collected at an obsessive level, I’ve painted and played at a competative level. I’ve played for fun, to make stories and sometimes just to be with my friends. I’ve played with family, friends, people I’d just met and people I’d never meet again. It’s been nearly 40 years encompasing the entire range of emotions you’d expect in that timeframe. I’ve rage quit, learned to love the hobby again. I grew up with it, out grew it, rediscovered it and eventually accepted that it’ll always be part of me.
In the end I just love seeing the look on my opponent’s face when I lay waste to their hobby in a perfect Alpha strike! I like to collect their tears and use them to sweeten my coffee.
Just joking, it’s the stories I make up in my head that come out of the games I play. They are like little movies that I get to direct.
Happy Sunday..oh yes and Friday aswell..
Great show gang. Happy Sunday!!! Love the subject today. I have to say I am a three way split. I am a collector. Old rule books, old minis. I also love getting in games. Was into the Warhammer Fantasy tournament scene for years. And 40K. Now Boltaction, ASOIAF, Star Wars Legion. I love the social aspect of Table Top gaming. I also am a lover of painting and modeling. Started in the 1970’s. My dad would get my older brother and me a bag of “plaster of Paris”. We would get newspaper and mix it with the plaster to build dioramas with his old REVEL car models. Car crashes, dirt roads, etc. My oldest brother was a huge influence in this. He built scale train tables. My pops was cool in the fact he was very supportive in building stuff. This show brought back many cool memories to this old Grognard! Thank you.