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Weekender: Kingdom Death Monster Unboxed, New Shows & More
October 31, 2015 by lloyd
It's a big weekend for us here at Beasts of War and as well as all the other awesomeness happening with Dropfleet we've also got a jam packed show where we're showing off Kingdom Death Monster and more...
Justin Past Lives
First we delve into a question from last weeks show. We talked past life regression and we asked you in the community to tell us what you think Justin has been doing in the annuls of history.
We go through some of your suggestions.
New Shows
- Warhammer 40,000: Charted - Follow AJ and Warren as they get stuck into 40k talking about the background and more.
- Objective Infinity - Carlos begins his series with us delving into the tips, tricks and tactics you can use on the battlefields of Infinity.
- X-Wing Battle Report - Lloyd and Killian played out their X-Wing On Endor Battle Report via the Live Blog and you can follow all of the action!
- Dropfleet Weekend - As we mentioned earlier, it's the Dropfleet Weekend! Check out their Kickstarter and watch out videos for more information.
Kingdom Death Arrives
Kingdom Death: Monster has dropped into the studio and as it is Halloween we thought it would be a perfect chance to break open the box and have a look inside.
There are some exquisite miniatures, wonderful set of components and an equally impressive game to get invested in here.
News Round Up
- Knights Of Dice Chinatown - Want some fancy buildings for use in Gotham or maybe even a Bladerunner-esque world? Look no further.
- Season Six For DreadBall - New teams, new rules and plenty of awesome options and characters arrive for Mantic's sixth outing.
- Horus Heresy: Betrayal At Calth - We delve into the leaks we've been seeing for this new Horus Heresy era boxed game by Games Workshop and talk about what we think of the game so far.
Kickstarter Time
- Covalence - Science for the win! Work together to build molecules in this cooperative game all about shared information and deduction. Learning is fun...
- Panzerfauste - Weird World War meets Fantasy with this mash up from Hysterical Games. Which of the factions do you like best?
- Stygmata RPG - Head into the world of Eden like never before with this role-playing game set in the same universe. You could even get yourself made into a miniature.
Competition Winners
We have winners to announce from our Warhammer 40:000 Eternal Crusade competition from last week. Listen for them during the show and then head HERE to claim your prize and join in with the game during development.
Grab A Free Backstage Trial & Watch XLBS Tomorrow
We hope you have a great weekend of gaming planned ahead.
Happy Halloween!
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Full speed ahead and damn the torpedos.
Great minis !
Ghosting on the monitors. When there’s something strange. And it don’t look good. Happy Halloween.
“Have you ever seen Games Workshop throw anything into their games?”
The Adeptus Arbites were stolen from Judge Dredd, as GW were making a Dredd game at the time. MODERN GW doesn’t but the GW we all learned to love did it all the time.
Also Kingdom Death has some creeply cheesecake (and beyond) models. These are the type of thing that makes me sad to be a gamer. Hey, at least we have the Dropfleet commander kickstarter to keep things good.
Question is: When they came up with the Adeptus Arbites, did they still hold the license for Judge Dredd? Or was it more like: “We’ve lost/expired the license but the molds are still good – How can we make profit?”
Even WarnerBrothers(BugsBunny) and Disney(MickeyMouse) appeared together in the same movie. They were together with Bob Hoskins falling down a building in: “Who framed Roger Rabbit?” Jessica Rabbit *rrrrrrr*
Happy Halloween all,
RE: Marvel and DC crossover. In the 70′ s they had a super sized crossover book with Spiderman vs Superman. The villains were Lex Luthor and Doctor Octopus.
Happy Weekend!
It’s the weekend… just had a quick preview and will have to watch in full later – off to a FoW day!
Justin “do i look like fagin!” yes justin you’re wearing his bloody beard mate! lol
That was priceless wasn’t it lol
He looks exactly like Fagan he he
Crossovers between IPs have been pretty common in comics. One of them was so successful that it spawned several movies and is now taken for granted that they exist in the same setting when they never did before a comic crossed them over. That being Aliens and Predator. Both of those have had further crossovers with Batman and Superman, and Batman has also crossed over with Judge Dredd.
Did any of the big Sci Fi licences ever do it @redben (in wider universe stuff or comics etc?) I’m curious if out side of comics is this something that doesn’t happen as much?
Aliens, Predator, Robocop, and Terminator have a history of crossing over with each other and other IPs in comic books. I’m not aware of Star Trek or Star Wars having crossovers in any medium.
To do it in a movie would usually take the same studio to own both IPs, as Fox do with Alien and Predator. It’s easier for a comic book publisher as they can license several IPs.
Though I’ll stress I’m not a fan of Star Wars or Star Trek so any crossovers they did do would pass me by.
I do have a novel that is a star trek/ marvel crossover.
Does the StarWars Christmas Special count as a crossover? What about Luke Skywalker appearing on the Muppet Show?
Predator 2 had an Alien skull as one of the trophies on the predator ship which gave them the idea for the crossover comics
The first Predator/Aliens comic was almost a year before Predator 2.
@davidl303 and @borbarad:
From IMDB –
“Putting the Alien (1979) skull on the trophy case on the Predator ship was the idea of Stephen Hopkins’ as a way of showing off all the different species and creatures that the Predators have hunted and killed. It was also a nod to the Dark Horse Aliens vs Predator comics which were quite popular at the time.”
Like I say, Dark Horse had been doing them for almost a year by the time the movie was released.
I always thought that the connection between Alien and Predator was established at the end of the second Predator movie. There is an Alien skull somewhere in Predator ship.
I know Star Trek had a crossover with Doctor Who. TNG and the Doctor vs. Borg and Cyberman.(And because of the wibbily wobbly timey wimey…stuff – there was a little bit TOS in there too)
Yay for winning the prize! My 9month old daughter is sleeping, so quiet jammy dance! 😀
Another fab episode guys! love Kingdom Death looks beautiful hope the game play is equally sweet. However even at the discounted price its over £200 before shipping and thats just too much for a board game in my opinion. I know the individual parts are with a lot more and that compared to collecting a 40K army etc its cheap but a lot for BOARD game. Or perhaps I’m just too much of a cheap skate. Would love to see a cheaper entry point is all.
30K game does look good with Lloyd on that dam you GW.
Warhammer 40K had a lot of crossover with GWs Judge Dredd stuff in the very early days. Even today you can see the influences. See hive cities, Arbites, inquisitors, pretty much the entirety of Necromunda for examples.
Still don’t believe me?
We used to use those for Rogue Trader
I have that – somewhere… I’m going to find it!
there was series, cross over between DC and Marvel where the heroes of both worlds battle each other, that also made into two series of where characters from both worlds mixed into one character
Yeah I had that series. Wolverine and Batman eventually merged into Darkclaw.
I love the Kindgom Death: Monster minis, and all the other minis at Adams web shop, but the game itself is too pricey for me. I have the money for it but I still can’t justify spending that much money on a board game. Because honestly, no matter how stunning it looks (and boy, DOES it look stunning!) and how many components you get, it’s still “just” a board game.
Having played through it, it is more like a grid based miniatures game, with gameplay that allows for an emergent rpg-like story. So think more akin to Necromunda and Mordheim.
Off the top of my head – Avengers/JLA (Busiek & Perez delivering a love letter to two iconic teams in all their incarnations…), Marvel vs DC and a smattering of one-off crossovers (Batman/Daredevil for example).
Star Trek has had some cross-overs in the comic iterations – Star Trek/X-Men, Star Trek/Doctor Who, and they are currently working on Star Trek/Green Lantern. There is also an upcoming Batman/Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles crossover.
At the moment there has been a thing of publishers who have access to characters doing crossovers within their respective books. Dynamite have had several recently – Swords of Sorrow crossed over the great pulp female adventurers they have access to, Masks brought together the likes of Zorro, The Shadow, Green Hornet and the Mystery Men of their era in one glorious mashup.
Generally it’s more of a phenomena in the comic book industry as the rights can be a nightmare to organise.
Kingdom Death looks absolutely beautiful!
But my hobby funds will go to GW this time, I have been waiting for plastic 30k for too long to give this a miss. As are the new 40k Tau. C’mon Lloyd, you know you want them 😎
Hopefully Kingdom Death will be a success and thus eventually more affordable.
Panzerfauste looks awesome and i’m in on that one already…. Judge Dredd refereeing is a joke what are Mantic thinking???
Bigger movie crossover would be Freddy and Jason, and there are nods sometimes like George Lazenby playing an untitled Bond cameo in Return of the Man from UNCLE.
Kingdom death Is awesome, I missed the kickstarter but when I saw the game being played and the awesome minis and art I had to grab the pre order deal, If you plan on getting it run! you will have to pay an extra 100$ for it once it is being released. Of course it is worth that and more.
Happy Halloween!
As your talking new shows can you give an indication of when hobby lab will be coming back? Lloyd teased some stuff that would be covered in it a few weeks back and I’m keen to give them a go. Great to see so much extra shows and content to enjoy while I’m painting.
Will Kingdom Death ever be available again? I can’t for the life of me work out what exactly is limited beyond the price.
The Knights of Dice stuff looks tremendous. VIv’s a great bloke and I hope it’s a success for him. And I hope they get them into UK stores.
May have drooled a little at the 30k stuff.
Well I could do with skipping a few meals …
Happy halloween weekenders, we really liked look of the panzerfauste game will keep an eye peeled when it hit,s the stores have a great weekend to all, but just a footnote:
our dog (jenny) will only listen to warren when he’s talking and lick the screen every time he is on and can’t understand where you gone and wonders around the living room then use paws to lap top screen, go figure a dog life 🙂 and no accounting for taste. Of course every time we try and get a picture she sits up and poses at the bloody camera, what a poser. No the dog not Warren. Although ……..
All the very best everyone Victoria and Chris.
I just want to state for the record, I would never refer to Justin as an unch.
Great video again guys thanks, Monster looks like a magnificent bit of kit, in all my years in the miniature gaming world, I have never seen anything like that with such high production values.
Chinatown looking fantastic. Big trouble in little China a most watch.
DC / Marvel Crossover (this was a project that both companies signed up for)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amalgam_Comics
3 mins into this weekender. Watch out Justin! too late. 😛
on crossovers;
Judge Dredd vs Batman, Aliens, Predator, Mars attacks, etc
First off.. wow… kingdoms of death.. just wow… I have been talking with a buddy about the cost of an game like that.. and sadly it’s not for me right now.. but I’m envious of anyone who took that plunge….
2ndly as for Dreadball… I think that for Mantic, they are all about “play what you want” … and so crossovers for them are a great idea… Judge Dredd…. speedball… Mars Attacks… all of those things are fine… despite the “competition of Dreadball tournaments”.. I think that as long as the rules aren’t horribly broken, Dreadball really is a beer & pretzels game between friends (or enemies)… any game where the dice can betray you or reward you to that extent .. any game with giant psychic squid and blobs of jelly that can swallow enemies… they really are just looking for a good time and not worried about their IP or anything like that… this isn’t Bloodbowl.. it’s Dreadball.. and I’m all for more teams, more MVPs, and more outrageous events because it’s hilarious and fun and that’s how it should be.
supernam vs the hulk and you can find as well batman vs wolverine
First thing about kingdom death’s components Is no video will do them justice the main board in particular must be seen first hand.
As a backer of the game I can tell you the game play is amazing, and might be the best solo game ever do to the to the RPG elements being stronger than you would think. Honestly game is worth the $$$ as I feel what I paid for it was a steal given how much my friends and I have enjoyed it and everything that comes with the game.
The pre order has been going on for a while so not sure when they will pull it. $295 is a better deal than the $400 you will pay after thanksgiving though.
Also for those interested the Kingdom death store added new models Friday night not sure what’s sold out and still available though.
Jammy Dance, thank you BoW!!!
I was floored by the anti-crossover bias. Judge Dredd comics had established silliness like dimension travel ( Batman/Judge Dredd, traveling to the Darkj Judges dimension…) and time travel (WWII German Planes traveled through time into Mega City 1). As many others have mentioned Comics are full of crossovers and people don’t complain “What is Doctor Who doing in my Star Trek!”
I like that Mantic is not taking their sci-fi universe as seriously as GW does. The purpose of their games is for people to have fun, and a universe where anything is possible serves that goal.
Is it me or do a bunch of these game Kickstarters have the same bored woman narrator that was on the Stigmata video? I don’t watch all that many Kickstarter videos, but it seems like more than half feature bored woman disembodied voice over a slideshow. I know these companies/projects don’t have a lot of money (hence why they are on Kickstarter), but is that the best voice actor they could get?
Batman vs Judge Dredd
Who stole Christmas ?
great glitch Batman it’s a unch!
Great show guys.
DC & Marvel crossover – Amalgam.
It begins with characters from both worlds, fighting each other to make sure that their world survives.
Another fantastic episode. I just preordered the Kingdom Death after seeing that box set. Work of art for sure!
back in the 90s DC and Marvel did a big crossover were it was DC vs Marvel with great contests like Batman vs Captain America and Superman vs Hulk with the losing universe being wiped out they even had the fans vote as to who won each fight. ended in a draw and the two universes being merged leading to the creation of the greatest hero of all time Darkclaw ( a combination of Batman and Wolverine )
I don’t play Dreadball so don’t have a stake in this one, but in principle I’m dead against crossovers. I know they do them a lot in comics, and that really turns me off comics too.
It seems like such a shame to develop an interesting setting to then wrench you out of it by inserting something that clearly doesn’t belong.
Happy Saturday!
Sorry @dignity, but @warzan – The irony of Justin the Eunuch asking “what are those dangly things?” 😀
Damn, damn, damn! I had been excited and thinking about getting Beyond the Gates of Antares, but had seen those plastic sprues and the rumours of the Horus Heresy era game. Then I saw snippets of the leaked pics, and now the better resolution pics have me completely sold on it! I’m gonna have to find a way to have both, but I hear the call of Calth a-calling! Damn it! 😀
Good science bit btw. Looking forward to tomorrow’s show as always. 😀
As I have mentioned before I am getting back into wargamming .. and I took my first step with Saga (which I do really like). I have been too-ing and fro-ing on what other universe to jump into and at the moment am heavily leaning towards Mantic. The use of Martians and Judge Dredd (Both of which I really like) does not appeal to me at all.. however, I don’t think that is an issue because those who do want to use it will and those who want to be more purist (like me) just wont… I guess the market will decide whether it is a good idea or not 🙂
lol had a great laugh at you guys reading out my ‘past life readings’ and others for @dignity . Good show chaps!
I imagine warlord are gnashing their teeth at the timing of the 30k release, just as gates of Antares releases after months of build up! I am sure many people are flipping between the two – I was tempted but pretty sure it will be Antares gobbling up my cash.
Just to be clear: it’s Panzer-foi-sta. The umlaut (dot over the a) changes the sound of the vowel, and the e at the end makes it plural. So, it would translate roughly as tank fists.
OMG those Kingdom Death models look gorgeous, but I think they’ll never get painted our build when I buy the box. Too much games being released at the moment XD
i have that Judge Dredd – Space Marine crossover city-scape somewhere. the space marines were a police force like the Eye of Terror thing at the back of Rogue Trader.
Me and my brother played 40k on the Space Crusade tiles – the new game looks class!
Hey guys! Great show as usual, you really make the weekend of hundreds of wargamers.
For the Chinese like buildings. I think something along the lines of Shadow run would work just great in such setup.
The Krastavor looks awesome! Though it’s probably cause I like tachikoma from ghost in the shell and it looks so alike.
now let’s go on XLBS 😛
40k in Chinatown.
great show happy Halloween everyone.
Panzerfaust is cracking, I managed to get over to and get a game in last week,,
http://toomuchmetal.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/panzerfauste-survival-of-migets.html
I don’t really mind the Dreadball crossovers, since that game is more or less the ‘tongue in cheek’ part of the Warpath universe. I wouldn’t use such miniatures in “official” tournaments, but they can be fun to play with for casual games.
Another brilliant show!
I look forward to what the team will bring to Kingdom Death, if I hadn’t got in during the kickstarter I would be kicking myself so hard right now. Infini-kick to death perhaps lol! (That’s a little KD game reference for you there)
Surprised nobody has mentioned the art direction on the Horus Heresy game, it is exactly the same as Forge World’s Horus Heresy book range. The lead in factor is strong with this one, just waiting for FW to start including unit cards with their models.
I liked the show very much. The box of Kingdom Death is so huge and beautiful. By the way I like Big Trouble in Little China too. I can recommend the rules ‘A Fistful of Kung Fu’ from Osprey Games. These rules you are looking for. It’s all in the reflexes.
that kingdom death stuff just looks so good.
Kingdom Death is amazing! Also probably the best board game I have ever played! (and I have played a lot!)
Shut up Lloyd. The Mars Attacks and Judge Dredd crossover is awesome.
I might be wrong with that, but I´m pretty sure the Word Bearers painted their armour grey after the treachery.
Thank you Beasts of War.
Coincidence that my computer is in Pc World getting a graphics card upgrade and I win access to a game that probably wouldn’t have played with the old card in it. 🙂
The Kickstarter section was cool again this week.
It looks like a great way to get fans, buy-in and cash upfront.
Warren mentioned the other week that he hoped backers had the courage to redesign art work or other aesthetics as part of their stretch goals. I think it would take some one really brave, because watching the Kickstarter website, with the competition and forward planning that it seems to require, the thought of making any calls off the cuff or contrary to the launch pitch must be frighteningly difficult. The argument would be that if it makes for a better game you should take that design decision and reap the rewards of fresh backers, even with the risk that some people that have already pledged feel the change has turned them off of your product.
Thought provoking and lots of cool new stuff to get the Christmas “I wants” feeling over.
I just got mine!
I hope you make a video blog for the whole campaign guys,