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Weekender: Infinity Campaign Announced & Win A FoW German D-Day Bundle!
August 31, 2019 by warzan
Come and join us for another absolutely massive Weekender which is packed with chat about what has been going on in the world of tabletop gaming this week.
Weekender Podcast Download
We have a lot to get stuck into from Kickstarter, Games Workshop and more so as always make sure to let us know your thoughts on everything in the comments below.
Comment To Win - Flames Of War D-Day German Starter Bundle
If you comment here on OnTableTop (two entries) or on Youtube (one entry) you'll get the chance to win yourself a great German army to start playing Flames Of War. This includes an Army, D-Day German Book, Unit Cards and Command Cards. Keep an eye out for their Live Launch on September 7th too!
All you have to do is let us know what you'll be doing with this should you pick it up!
The Start Of WWII In Poland
oriskany and yavasa from the community have been working away on a great forum topic which charts the start of World War II. Come and remember the anniversary of the invasion of Poland by German in their forum topic HERE.
Updates - Spam & Hobby
We are just giving you an update on spam as we've had a lot of problems with weird accounts on the site. As well as that we are going to be moving the Hobby Hangout for now and talking about Community Spotlight on Sunday with the Cult Of Games/XLBS show instead.
Keep an eye out for our community chatter there and get stuck in with the comments of course too.
News
Make sure to check out some of the news we got excited about this week...
- Ossiarch Bonereapers - A new undead faction coming to Age Of Sigmar
- Sisters & Psychics - New stories unfold in Warhammer 40,000 plus a full Adepta Sororitas army!
- Aeronautica Imperialis - Introduce a new dogfighting game into the mix from the folks at Games Workshop
- War In Rohan - A new supplement and some cool miniatures are coming to support Middle-earth wargamers
- ZEN Terrain's Drowned Earth - Check out this awesome modular Shanty Town and our Let's Plays HERE
- Clank! Legacy - Delve into a new take on this deck builder from the folks at Dire Wolf & Renegade Game Studios
Make sure to drop all of your thoughts on this news into the comments and fill us in on something which we might have missed.
Plastic Alchemy Introduction
We take some time to chat with the team behind Plastic Alchemy who are looking to be some of the first people to create their first 3D printable board game, Kordran Conflict. You can sign up to follow all of the news about the game HERE.
Kickstarter
Here are two projects worth checking out and potentially backing...
- Cryptic Explorers - This is a dark and dangerous Sci-Fi dungeon crawler with an insanely good look to it!
- Future World Creator - GameStart Edizioni show off their stunningly colourful tiles, standees and more
Could you be tempted by either of these campaigns?
Have a great weekend!
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It’s the Weekender!
The FoW Slow Grow League is one of the best things that FoW has done for their players to get folks back into the swing of things.
It’s good to see Infinity get some love and a new campaign. I miss the Infinity Weeks of the past!
Have a great weekend mate! 🙂 – Yeah dont worry we’ll have an infinity week before the year is out 😉
Really looking forward to getting my hands on the D-Day German book.
I was going to start painting my Germans, but will wait for this to get released.
Hoping to win the Flames of War goodies! Good luck everybody!
Love he info on the FOW goodies. thanks for that and all the other great goodies.
Thanks guys.
looking forward to another good weekender!
That german army deal looks really good, lots of goodies
I would argue the main difference in the Poish campaign was the luftwaffe and their total air superiority
One of the differences for sure but in 1939 Luftwaffe was not really doing what it was known from the 1940 and up. So, no direct support of ground forces and a lot of operational targets chosen by the Luftwaffe Command.
I completely agree with both on you. 😀 German air supremacy, and they did have air supremacy … was indeed a MASSIVE factor. But this early in the war it was mostly used in an operational rather than a tactical sense … hitting rail lines, communication points, bridges, roads, HQ units, etc … so Poland could not mobilize fully and get their maneuver units concentrated where they needed them in time. How mobile are the Germans really in 1939? Doesn’t matter. What matters is how much MORE mobile you are than your opponent. And not only were the Germans OVERALL… Read more »
Good morning tabletop friends.
Morning @torfinn! thanks for stopping by!
Might just get back into FOW
It’s the Weekend!
With FoW German season about to beg9n I’m going to have to restrain myself. I don’t need everything…
…or do I? Very interesting pair of videos from Rodney on his “Watch it Played” YouTube channel about the collector urge. https://youtu.be/2AtArovBQ2s
JG Ballard’s book “Empire of the Sun” is set in 1941’s invasion of Shanghai by the Japanese.
Japan’s invasion of China on 1937 wasn’t really part of the second world war as they’d been at it for at least 40 years since the boxer revolution; so even calling it the 2nd sino-japanese war is under-stating the lengthy history of an ongoing ‘local’ conflict.
I don’t feel it’s really that simple. The Question: Pick up any history book, open any serious history website, ask most historians, and they’ll all tell you the same thing. World War II begins with Germany’s invasion of Poland in 1939. But is it true? Not necessarily. That said, this is a point I try not to drive home too hard in the community because believe it or not, it brings up a surprising amount of baggage. The Case: Japan invades China in 1937 in a big, big way. This is a new offensive, a new war, and not really… Read more »
Re point 8 [assume we are A]
The eternal paradox of global politics:
“My friend’s friend is my friend” [A^B^C implies A^C]
“My friend’s enemy is my enemy” [A^DxC implies AxC]
…
Dammit!?!
Worst game of “F***, Marry, Kill” ever, eh? 😀
Thanks for that Ben ,Grima Wormtongue shall now for ever onwards will be known as Wet Willy
Flames of war looks easier to get into with the new sets. My son is keen to start an army as he likes the tanks.
Not to rain on the parade but although the Poles as is absolutely undisputed most valiantly resisted and did some outstanding soldiering the sheer numbers were totally against them even if the Soviet Union would not have engaged (17.09.1939, by then it did look dire for Poland already). The Germans had nearly 3,000 tanks against not even 900 Polish ones but let’s not forget the Luftwaffe, 2,700 modern German planes against just 400 mostly outdated on the Polish side and not least the infantry, 66 divisions against only 39. 16,000 Germans KIAs and 66,000 Poles died defending their homeland. The… Read more »
Indeed, the question is how much longer would it take for the Germans to achieve victory.
yes, that’s what I was trying to get across, without the hammer blow in the east could they have delayed long enough for the allies to have joined in earlier
I think @suetoniuspaullinus makes a solid case. After all, the Western Allies DID get involved right away. One of the most forgotten campaigns in World War II is that France outright INVADED Germany almost as soon as the war in Poland started. They didn’t push it very hard, I think they got something like five miles into the Rhineland and gave up. The British also re-started the old WW1 blockade almost immediately. What kind of chance Poland had? How well matched against the Germans were they really? TACTICALLY – Not bad, as @avernos correctly outlines. 😀 Some of their tanks… Read more »
Panzer! Panzer! Panzer!
It must be strange to be a 20th century wargamer if you are german… as your native army is the bad guy to most of the rest of the world.
I know that fantasy games have evil armies, but they never existed in real world.
It’s not like Germany is the only country in the 20th century to be the ‘bad guys’
We’ve done some pretty bad stuff in Indonesia post WW2 too and then we get to Srebrenica. Altthough that was more the result of politicians giving our troops an impossible task while none of our allies offered support.
could be worse there are a few countries I put above Germany in the evil stakes
The 1920s-40s Soviets or 1930s-1945 Japan … MAYBE … and this is a stretch. 🙂
I certainly wouldn’t put them “above,” but they’re really the only ones in the same league.
The difference I feel is that German culture has largely accepted and acknowledged this past.
Most players of a german force (such as myself usually) are able to separate their gaming faction loyalty from any sense of admiration of Hitler’s National Socialist Party (Nazis). As a principle I go as far as to refuse to incorporate any SS units in my forces; so I’ll be skipping the upcoming SS FoW book. I prefer to consider my forces to be ordinary Heer containing maybe some Lehr (effectively well trained veterans). A little bit rose-tinted I know as certain orders to commit atrocities applied top down to the whole Wehrmacht and some were therefore committed by ordinary… Read more »
I do think that the closer we get to the present with war-games, the harder it is to disconnect.
Happy Weekend! Thanks for mentioning our little thread out here guys. Really appreciate it. Would Poles be able to hold out? I don’t know. The whole defensive plan depended on France and UK invading Germany from the West and as we know it diplomacy is bad lady. France informed UK before the war broke out that if the war starts they are not going to honour their pact with Poland and invade Germany. As for the two fronts part. Well, Germans wanted to invade Russia anyway. Hitler did want “Lebensraum” in the East and a realization of the idea was… Read more »
Wonderful work @yavasa!
Great work, @yavasa ! 😀
Splendid work, @oriskany 😉
A German Army, West or East Germany
Actually German was fight a war on three fronts: West: Allies Normandy Invasion, East: Russia, and South: Allies Mediterrain Invasion
I promise I am real an not spam; that Monty Python has a lot to answer for
One point the crew started to touch on and I’d like to see more of a discussion of is…. Game death by expansion. For prior GW new game releases, gamers have been worried about whether a game will be “supported in the future” – I have too many things to say about that term to go into it now. It now seems with both Warcry and, more timely, Aeronautica Imperialis (AI), the pendulum may have swung back too far the other way, with too much coming out too soon. With AI, if one purchases the “Wings of Vengeance” Starter Set,… Read more »
Yup during the conversation I was wondering the same thing – is there too much and could it fracture the fan base.
We will have to see…
I think with AI it’s not so much a ‘game with expansions’, but more a complete game sold in parts in order to keep the illusion of a ‘cheap’ game. So instead of selling a 150 Euro ‘starter set’ they’re selling a 60 Euro introduction with (not quite optional) expansions. I wonder if the strategy for this game is this way because they weren’t as sure it would sell. Adeptus Titanicus had enough of a cult following to warrant that big expensive starter set. Killteam had enough use as cheap source for 40k armies if that failed. Warcry is probably… Read more »
It seems to be the same with most games these days.
A quick search on YT finds only one or two English language unboxings, from August 26, which is quite early for a GW release.
And for me, it is not one of the usual suspects (ie GMG, Tabletop Minions)
It does show that the board included is, in fact, a paper sheet, not what I’d call a board.
So it does seem to quite a basic starter.
No play throughs yet..
Interesting strategies, from a marketing point of view.
The preorders for this game only started today.
I suspect not many have had their pre-release press kits 😉
The ‘map’ in the box does appear to be paper as it listed as “1x Double-sided Area of Engagement battlemat”.
You can see this in the official ‘how to play’ video with Becka :
https://aeronautica-imperialis.com/
I suspect that a cardboard version would have made it more expensive.
And IIRC it’s the same type of ‘battlemat’ that GW uses in all of their entry-level products like the AoS Soulwars starterset.
I see “How to play” and “Play throughs” as different things.
The first runs through and teaches the rules – all the phases of the turns and who the game is won.
The second actually plays the game, which I find gives me a better feeling of whether I will like the game or not.
I suspect there is a review embargo on this game until the official release, which is why you haven’t found anything yet.
However the GW news and their intro videos at least show the content of the game, which is what an unboxing would do anyway.
And it is at least something to give me a first impression.
I definitely would like to see a bit more by outsiders as marketing material tends to ignore the negative features.
I think in GMG’s case, the range got to him too late to have everything painted up, a video recorded and edited to be up for when the embargo lifted – which generally seems to be when the pre-orders start. (He did put out a “Let’s Play” of Riot Quest, the new PIP game, on Saturday.) I’m pretty sure that Tabletop Minions got Kill Team a month or two before the embargo lifted, so Uncle Atom and others had heaps of time to get things done. Are other games producers trying to match the tempo of release that GW has… Read more »
Thanks for an interesting discussion about the start of ww2, and it’s fun to hear about the turnup to your FOW events!
Great show. I watch every week.
Happy Weekend to all Beasts / OTTer’s / CoGs and Cultists.
Happy Weekend mate!
It’s getting harder and harder to resist going back to FoW. Might have to dust of (and expand) my german Panzergrenadiers…
Best of luck with the troubles.
Remember : with historical games you can switch rule systems …
I’m pretty sure you can use FoW minis in Battlegroup:Overlord
Great show as always gents! I look forward to it every week .