Just wondering about fireprisms x3 and you have a pretty heavy firebase also wraith lords are pretty good for a brightlance platform. Other thing id like to see is more D cannons they are probably my favorite ranged weapon and i hardly see them used because of their cost especially on heavy weapon teams ( also in the heavy support section if i recall). Last thing id like beats of war to try is see how many lascannon shots it takes to destroy a falcon with holofields and a farseer casting re-rollable saves moving flat out. it even makes the… Read more »

And ofcourse spirit stones on the falcon.

#1. Eldrad is one of the most powerful CC models in the game. WS5, T4, I5, 3Wo, 3++ rerollable invul, 3 attacks on the charge, Power weapon that wounds on a 2+ or S9 versus vehicles. #2, Fire Dragons in a Falcon is a TERRIBLE recommendation. Please update your strategies to 5th edition. #3. Witchblades are S9 + 1D6 pen #4. Wave Serpents are one of the most difficult to damage vehicles in the game if not the most difficult. The BEST odds ANY shot in the game will have against front and side armor is a 50% chance to… Read more »

PS: please post the list, without points costs obviously, so I can give this poor guy some knowledgeable advice.

I have played Eldar for a couple of years now and I must agree with bluedagger here. Rangers are cool models but thats already it. If you take Rangers as the core of your army you have to whipe out the enemy by turn 3 or so, because otherwise you get crushed in CC. Even a troop of guardsmen would kill a squad of Rangers in one CC phase. They die way to fast for their costs. Normally I also recommend DA as your troop choice, the offensive build works good against other troops. Eldrad is not bad in CC,… Read more »

The issue with Dragons in a Falcon is not the Dragons, it is the Falcon. A Falcon is a 180 point investment that has 3 S8 48″ shots when kitted properly and it’s biggest weakness is melta. You are first off negating it’s shots by moving full out for the Dragons, negating it’s range by closing on your opponent, and putting it in range of it’s biggest weakness melta. Falcon Loadout – EML, Holos, Stones w/ 5 DA inside and preferably something to cast Guide on it. Fire Dragon loadout – 5 Dragons in a Serpent w/ Scatter Lasers. Not… Read more »

I’ll say Hi to you all first as I have not posted before, here goes…..Dire Avengers are great my list runs with two squads of 10 in wave serpents. You can not evaluate their use in isolation as like most of the Eldar it needs another element to make it work, generally a Farseer of some description……. Bladestorm with guide and doom, and if there is anything left do it again with the 2nd squad, most people I play find that quite aggressive not a last resort. I’ll give the big unit of pathfinders a go though (good excuse to… Read more »

I have to agree with bluedagger. This blog was awful for lots of inaccuracies and definately not good for new eldar players (veteran eldar players know better). Rangers are ok (I take five just to annoy people). However, DA are the bread and butter troops for any competitive list. The bladestorm with doom and guide will make mincemeat of any space marine (2+ armour or not). Their short range of 18″ is compensated by having fast skimmers (12″ + 18″ = 30″ range!). I think the mistake here is that you cant compare them to marines or play them like… Read more »

Pathfinders arent that great in tourneys, i had better results using Eldar jetbikes and they are cheaper and have more mobility. As for the of ranges/pathfinders being good against footsloggers and mentioning the list being tailored for tourneys i realy begin to raise an eyebrow (like the Rock). Who in there right mind takes a footslogging army to a tourney? We are in Mech edition after all. Dire Avengers in cc just spells doom, the unit is ment to kill off small units with Bladestorm, not for an overextended slugfest, a babysitter is always required for them (farseer with doom/guide).… Read more »

i think that eldar rangers are pretty good in matches, they need to be chosen for the right thing though. As soon as they get in cover and start poping shots off players tend to get a bit off edge and start redirecting a lot of their armies firepower into killing them leaving your army to try and level out the losses, in my opinion they would be best used in high point matches with max unit or apocalypse games or random senario matches. also very good if you do full table settup where you and your opponent take turns… Read more »

i do however agree that in tournies its gonna be a bad idea to field them

Rangers/Pathfinders are hardly scary, a good players just moves up dealing with youre big guns and than on the go just wipes them out in an assault phase.

I have experience of Rangers/Pathfinders as well as the Night Spinner and think that the points made on them miss the true strengths and weaknesses of these units. Rangers/Pathfinders are extremely good at what they do, but have problems with assault orientated drop pod lists. They also suffer from weapons that ignore cover such as flamers as they then have to rely on thier standard save. NIght Spinners excel at being a pain in the a$$e by disrupting troops, taming hordes, killing light vehicles and on occasion immobalising the odd heavy vehicle. Like all things Eldar, you have to place… Read more »

Just gotta say from a ghosting perspective this discussion has been great. Hats off to both @bluedagger and @beerogre for the lively discussion. Seems like each perspective is valid, and speaks volumes about how personal play style influences army composition.

I’ve not used Rangers in a long time, they are not that hard to get rid of with weapons that ignore their cover save. Flamers, heavy flamer from a drop podding termy, whirlwind, some psychic powers (Guard power that causes you to break and leave cover). You need them to have area terrain- just a wall isn’t enough as an Ord blast’s direction comes from the markers centres to a bit of scatter can loose them that advantage. Even when they are survivable they can’t put out enough damage to stop being hit with an assault. I prefer the Dire… Read more »

I agree with the above criticisms of rangers, they can be good but but spamming them is questionably effective such as spamming something like all AV14 would be: some armies wouldn’t be ready for it, but some would, it doesn’t mean its inherently better. You’ll tend to completely dominate some games, but some armies will be able to deal with it and thrash you. The problem with a lot of your criticisms of eldar is I don’t think enough of the synchronization of the eldar was considered: for example, bladestorm might seem tame at first but cast doom and guide… Read more »

hey guys, this is a 1,250 points of necons can you help, thanks

1 overlord 90, phareon 20, ressurection orb 30, warsythe 10
1 overlord 90, phareon 20, ressurection orb 30, warsythe 10
10 immortals 170, gauss blasters –
10 immortals 170, gauss blasters –
10 warriors 130, (dedicated transport) ghost ark 115
3x annhialation barge 270
5 deathmarks 95

I’d say that Dark Eldar are actually quite tough to play. I think a balanced codex is one where there is no glaring weakness making the codex unlayable, or a glaring OPness making it impossible to play against.