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    yarkshiregamer
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    https://yarkshiregamer.blogspot.com/2020/03/28mm-honey-tanks-for-desert.html

    Hot on the heels of the Mk VI Light Tanks I posted a couple of weeks ago I have been busy with the Caunter Paints again, this time adding them to some lovely 28mm Blitzkrieg Miniatures.

    Plenty of pics on the blog link above. For our 1941 games these are the pinnacle of British Armour and it’s nice to have something that isn’t armed with a 2 pounder !

    Regards Ken
    The Yarkshire Gamer

    #1497423

    tankkommander
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    Those look fantastic. Lovin’ the camo pattern. I think of that on the Matilda rather than other tanks.

    #1497703

    yarkshiregamer
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    The+8th+Hussars+testing+their+new+American+M3+Stuart+tanks+in+the+Western+Desert,+28+Aug1941.+IWM+photo+E+5062

    One of my favourite Honey pics is this, from August 1941 of M3 tanks practicing in the Desert. Not only does it show all the tanks in the Caunter Scheme it shows how there were subtle variations between individual vehicles.

    Regards Ken

    The Yarkshire Gamer

    #1497720

    innes
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    Looking good. What colours did you use for the caunter pattern? Painting guides i’ve seen vary a lot.

    #1497979

    yarkshiregamer
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    Hi,

    That’s one of the most argued questions in modelling ūüėĀ

    Start here with this paint set, it has the official colours,

    https://ak-interactive.com/product/the-caunter-scheme-1940-41/

    After that it gets more complicated, once suppliers switched to ones local to the area colours started to react to the harsh desert conditions, the contemporary colour photos I have from the time show the Silver Grey colour in the scheme changing to different blue colours from a very light, duck egg blue to a mid blue green. As the colour is reacting to conditions over time there is no right or wrong.

    I use Vallejo Pale Blue Grey or Blue Grey for mine when I’m not using the Official colours.

    Hope that helps

    Regards Ken

    The Yarkshire Gamer

    #1498745

    danbang
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    I do love a Honey tank, they look really really good. Attached is my take. IMG_3996

    #1498756

    danbang
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    83xp

    Sorry as in the tanks youve painted  Ken look really really good.

    #1499213

    avernos
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    16474xp

    Lovely work @yarkshiregamer

    If anyone is interested there is a book (pamphlet) by Mike Starmer on the pattern. He got access to the MoD’s patterns and it ends with paint chips and whatever the British equivalent of RAL is.

    I’ll dig out my copy for a few photos.

    #1499232

    avernos
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    16474xp

    This is the book in question

    cover

    One of several he has researched and prints at home, very old school but then so am I. If you want your own copy I definitely recommend it, the details are here.

    more from the author

    It’s full of the MoD’s patterns, every piece of equipment had it’s own scheme, so light tanks had a different application than cruiser tanks, or soft skins. All of the MoD’s patterns are reproduced like this wagon one.

    example

    he explains its inception, trails and subsequent use in the desert. There’s a good deal of research in there including the official colours and unofficial and pattern variations. If you are not mad keen on spending ¬£15 for maybe a one off model I will include the best part, the paint recipe for the caunter style with notes for vehicle restorers as well as modellers. The crowning glory being 6 paint chips glued into the book so there can be no colour shift through printing.

    paint receipe

    #1499285

    torros
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    @avernos That name seems familiar¬† I’m sure I gave a pdf of a public forum¬† where he mentions the colours he uses

    #1499289

    avernos
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    he mentioned it on TMP a long time ago, which is where I saw and ordered it the first time. It’s also the reason¬† that I’m alright posting that, I don’t want to post his whole book though

    #1499291

    torros
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    I cant find it . Its probably on a dead hard drive somewhere. It might not even bevyhe same thing It was probably  10-15 years ago I saw it

    • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 2 days ago by  torros.
    #1499292

    torros
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    Quite right  not to post it

    • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 2 days ago by  torros.
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