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40k Space Wolves & Daemons Boot Sale Bargain – Help Lawnor identify and fix please (Spring Cleaning)

40k Space Wolves & Daemons Boot Sale Bargain – Help Lawnor identify and fix please (Spring Cleaning)

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About the Project

I was helping my karate club run a stand at a school fete that had a boot sale of 6 cars. While handing out leaflets at the boot sale I saw a box and some drawers with some GW in. I asked how much and they said £10. I assumed per tank, but then thay said, "for the lot, not just the box. You can tell we don't want to take it home again". I don't play 40K and don't know too much about it, but how could I say no? I don't know what all of this is, and I don't know what parts are mising. Please help me return this to fighting shape.

This Project is Completed

Building and Prep Work for Space Marines and Terminators

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I’ve built and repaired all the Space Marines and Terminators from the parts available.  I do not have enough parts to avoid using damaged parts, or to avoid using two sets of Terminator legs that I believe have Dark Angels symbols on them.  I could file them off but I’m afraid I’ll just ruin the models.  I think Terminators come in units of 5 men so this gives me 2 units, instead of one and some spare models.  I also have 13 Tactical Marines built, and 3 Primaris from the front of the Magazine yet to assemble.  Two marines needed green stuffing to repair, and one Terminator was holding a handle with no blade so I cut an axe head off a spare weapon and pinned it on, probably adding more than an inch to its length.  It also had a cool wolf head on its bottom so i also transferred that over extending the axe even further.  The guy is now wielding a pistol in one hand and a very long axe in his other hand.  It might not be practical, but it is cool.  See the middle guy in the last image of the gallery

Everybody has had a mix of cork and kitty litter glued to their bases for rocks.  They will have cleaned dirt applied with matt medium as a glue, and then sealed in with dilute PVA.  Watery PVA will also be applied over the cork so it can soak in and reinforce it.  I might do this part twice as some of it is fragile.  My plan is to apply winter tufts and snow to all the bases at the end.  Height and texture will help make this look good.

These two had to have limbs repaired or extended with Green Stuff.  it was left 24 hours to dry, and then filed down as best as I can.  Hopefully once primed it will be less noticeableThese two had to have limbs repaired or extended with Green Stuff. it was left 24 hours to dry, and then filed down as best as I can. Hopefully once primed it will be less noticeable

I also have 2 Dreadnoughts.  Their arms are already glued on but I have 2 spares.  I am considering removing the arms and magnetising them.  Anyone had any experience with this?  Is one magnet a limb enough to not only support the weight but stop weapon droop / the limbs rotating until the point downwards?  I’ve seen a guide where someone put 3 magnets per side of the body and put a metal plate on each limb.  This means it only takes 6 magnets per body, and there are no issues about lining up magnets and pins across multiple limbs.  I finished off a tub of Twiglets last night.  The bottom is ferrous metal and thin and light.  I suspect I could cut it with a decent pair of scissors too.  It might be worth a try.

Has anyone any experience and opinions on making Dreadnought limbs swap-in-and-out-able through any methods?

Iron Priest Test Piece & Space Wolf Model Inventory

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I want to test out the colour scheme for the Space Wolves before I go full in to mass production so I’ve picked a solo to work on first.  I had 11 marines so thats 1 spare from a unit.  I had 3 mechanical arms so why not turn him in to an Iron Priest?  His arm was broken so that needed patching up with Green Stuff.  I know the backpack is technically for loading rockets in to a launcher, but my rocket launcher guy already has a backpack so I’m going with it.  Below you can see what I’ve built, and the current GW stock model for the Iron Priest.  What do you think?  See any issues?  I’ll likely prime him in the morning and put him on one side to start painting once I’ve cleared the current minis off my paint station.

I don’t know about 40k iconography so if anyone sees me using something definitively wrong please let me know.  I want to be mostly correct and this is also a good opportunity for me to learn more about the universe and the lore.

As a summary, here’s what I think I own towards a Space Wolves army.  I’d be interested to hear if this is a solid basis for a competitive list ot not, and what I’d need to add/remove to make it so:

HQ: Kitbashed Iron priest

Elites: Dreadnought & Venerable Dreadnought

Heavy Support: Land Raider, Vindicator, & Predator

Transport: Rhino

Troops: 10x Tactical Marines, 10x Terminators, 3x Primaris Intercessors from the magazine (Can you field just 3?  Looks like 5 is the minimum)

I can’t seem to find regular Terminators or Marines in the GW Combat Roster program.  Are all Space Wolf Terminators called Wolf Guard Terminators, or are they different?  I assume base level SW Space Marines are known as a Space Wolf Pack?  I’m not seeing them in the app either.  GW Don’t like to make this game easy to access, do they?

Back to painting

  1. I started with a preshade
  2. Using inks I built up the colour on the shoulders.  This should benefit from the preshading if I don’t go too far.  Working with the inks I already own, I chouse to try Coat d’arms Ink Wash Red and Coat d’arms Ink Wash yellow.  The red appeared too bright so I ended up dulling it down later with a little P3 Skorne Red glaze.  I may revisit this later and change it again.
  3. The shoulders were then coated with gloss varnish to protect them during the next few steps.
  4. The shoulders were given 2 heavy coats of liquid mask.  Thick is easier to remove later.
  5. Using my airbrush I laid down an even base coat of GW The Fang.  First highlight was GW Russ Grey sprayed from above and down to almost 90 degrees.  Final highlight was GW Fenrisian Grey sprayed from above and out to 10-20 degrees at most.  This should build up a natural highlight over all those curved surfaces
  6. The liquid mask was removed and the areas were checked to see if they needed touching up.
  7. The model was given a coat of gloss varnish and then pin washed with GW Agrax Earthshade
  8. I should have gone in and edge highlighted the blues but I did not.  I will likely do this with future models and do this guy with them.  This might require adding a little ivory, or P3 Frostbite to the highlight colour.  We will see.
  9. The flex between armour plates was based with VMC 70.995 German Grey and washed with GW Nuln Oil
  10. I picked out the iron with GW Leadbelcher, washed id with Nuln oil, and highlighted up with P3 Cold Steel.  The dark plates on the guns were painted with VMC German grey and washed and highlighted with the iron to give them a metallic effect
  11. The gold was done with GW Retributor armour, washed with diluted Green Stuff World (GSW) 1713 Pecatum Flesh Wash Ink, and then highlighted back up with P3 Solid Gold.
  12. The skulls were painted with P3 Jack Bone, washed with GW Seraphim Sepia and highlighted with P3 Menoth White Base.
  13. The axe handle was based with P3 Murderous Magenta, washed with Agrax Earthshade and highlighted with a mix of Murderous Magenta and P3 Menoth White Highlight.
  14. The eyes were given a dot of P3 Ember Orange and then washed with red ink.

The base was sprayed with VMC Neutral Grey, washed with Nuln oil and drybrushed up with P3 jack Bone.  The mud was painted with P3 Battlefield Brown, then drybrushed with P3 Bootstrap Leather and then a little P3 Jack Bone.  It will eventually be coated with snow, but it is more efficient to do this with multiple bases at the same time so I am not doing this just yet.

I’m calling him done for now.  I’ll likely be adding some edge highlighting to the armour while painting some troops and I may revisit the red too.  We will see.  I plan on using these steps as a basis for the rest of the army.

Painting, clean up and prep for the future

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I ran these guys under the tap in warm water and rubbed them gently with a toothbrush and they look much cleaner.  32mm seems to be the future for space marines so I’ll likely re-base them before painting.  I know the old bases aren’t a problem to stick with, at least for this edition.  I have a few questions I’d like some feedback on:

1: If I wanted to strip the paint off the tanks without dismantling them, is my best option actually a big bucket of Dettol?  I usually use a jam jar, which needs a lot less fluid.

2: If I didn’t strip and just primed over the top with my airbrush, does anyone foresee any issues?

3: I’ve seen the Citadel paints app for the Space Wolves colour scheme, but GW paint pots hate air brushes.  Anyone got a Vallejo recipe they like and care to share?  otherwise I’ll look at the DakkDakka chart and just compare GW and Vallejo pots down the store one day, and that’s not always representative of their dry colours.

4: Space Wolves deserve snowy rocky ground.  I have some PrecisionIceAndSnow fake snow which I’ve used and like, but it really wants lots of peaks and troughs on a base to work well.  I could put down cork rocks, and bits of kitty litter.  I could base stamp some green stuff broken ground.  Anyone got any other suggestions for adding spots of height to the base that won’t stop me drilling pin holes through them and sticking a marine down with them?

5: If anyone has some spare Las Cannons for a Predator tank or a Land Raider (Which also needs a sponson optic) and doesn’t mind parting with them please let me know.  I also have the resin body for Abaddon the Despoiler.  He either needs all the other parts sending to me, or he needs to be adopted by someone else who has the parts.

6: Anyone any experience with Oyumaru or other mould making sticks?  Think I could make moulds from the las cannons I have and then mod them to fit the other sides of these tanks?  Would it take lots of practise to get it right?  Would I be better off casting the guns in two halves (top and bottom) and then gluing them together after, or trying to make a full clamshell mould?

 

UPDATE 10/10/18

I found the parts for the Predator, one Land Raider Las Cannon and 2 Las Cannon armour plates/covers on eBay yesterday and ordered them.  Assuming they turn up all I need now is one Land Raider Las Cannon and one sponson optic/sensor, and I can replace that with a couple of wires and say it was shot off if need be.  Looking for donations or trades if anyone has those 2 parts?

Rhino

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I missed a tank!  With so much to post I forgot to inclide the Rhino.  The gun is missing off the top, but it is present.  Otherwise it appears intact.  Correct me if I am wrong.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Space-Marine-Rhino-2017

 

Son of Horus Terminator Character? Terminator Lord? Who is he?

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I found this guy in the mix. He’s probably resin.  I think theres a resin hammer in the bits box that might be his.  He is a stron match for the Forgeworld Suns of Horus Terminatos, but he has much fancier knee pads and a different back.  he knee pads remind me of the Chaos Terminator Lords so perhaps he is a SoH Terminator lord, perhaps 30K?  I can’t find him on either web site.  Anyone recognise him?  he has odd cut marks on the bottom of his feet, suggesting he was stood on something once, but perhaps I’m just reading too much in to that?

Converting models from one chapter to another

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This guy is currently a Dark Angel.  Most of my stuff is Space Wolves and i’d like to unify what I can.  I’m not sure how much of his iconography says that.  The right shoulder does.  Does the wings in the corner of the sape, and how about the breastplate and crotch guard?  What about the right shin?  If it is just the shoulder this would be an easy fix.  The cloak may be fixable by filing.  Not sure about the rest.

What is the unit size for Space Wolves Terminators?  This guy would be my 11th.  Would he even fit?  Or would a Captain be an extra or a solo/character?  Not sure how 40K works.

EDIT: He’s a Deathwing Terminator Captain, isn’t he?  im pretty sure I have those wing things from his shoulders.  Everything on his is Dark Angel iconography, isn’t it?  Theres no converting him I assume and I should just enjoy the model as it is.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Dark-Angels-Deathwing-Terminator-Squad

I’m told this next guy is a Grey Knight.  Whats parts of the model mark him as such and can anything be done to turn him in to a Space Wolf, or a generic marine?  Given he is metal, and a nice sculpt, would I be better off just enjoying him as he is?  Something appears to be missing from the top of his backpack.  Any ideas?  Anyone know what the original sculpt is called and perhaps have a link to images?

This next guy looks a lot like Captain Tycho of the Blood Angels.  is he perhaps a previous sculpt of him?  Is there anything about him that ties him to a Chapter?  Should his gun have extra parts on it?  It looks like maybe the barrel is missing a piece?  There is no detail on the end there, but otherwise it looks like a fancy version of many other guns I have.

 

Update: He’s a Web Store exclusive from 2014 for ordering more than £50 of stuff.  he is based on the 1991 games day limited edition mini.

http://www.kriswallminis.com/2014/04/pretty-effing-awesome-space-marine.html

 

Please start at other end for more information

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Please look through this gallery and help me identify everything, cornim my identification, and look for missing parts.  If you can also link to decent pictures of any missing parts you may help me find them in my bits box.

 

Thank you for your help.

Terminators and Marines and Odds and Sods

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Terminators(?) already on bases.  Some have braids and claws.  I assume this means I bought a Space Wolves army?Terminators(?) already on bases. Some have braids and claws. I assume this means I bought a Space Wolves army?
The Marines already on bases or that caught my eye.  I see some characters and a beaky marine.  Anyone recognise anything?The Marines already on bases or that caught my eye. I see some characters and a beaky marine. Anyone recognise anything?

There were a few sprues with lots left on them too.  Perhaps they can be used to identify what the other marines are from?  They need identifying too.  The rule books and assembly guides I found are in the gallery below, if that helps anyone.  The most recent White Dwarf was from 2014 so that puts a rough age sinec thic collection was updated.

There were alos some Ork transfers.  Are they likely to still be useable or do thise things go of over time?  I’m actually painting some Orks right now and they might be useful.

The gallery also shows you the Bits Box..  its over an inch deep and it is BUSY.

Who does this banner belong with?  Terminators or Marines?  Do terminators carry banners ever?  Would this icon free banner ever be limited to a chapter?Who does this banner belong with? Terminators or Marines? Do terminators carry banners ever? Would this icon free banner ever be limited to a chapter?

Update: I have pieced together 10 Space Wolf / generic Terminators, 11 generic Tactical Marines, with just enough iconographly on their leader to be Space Wolves, and a Techmarine with Space Wolf weapons and symbols.

 

While I am down 3 weapons from tanks, which I hope to pick up soon I estimate that everything compete from this would have cost £423 (Edit: after remembering the Rhino this is £445.50) if I walked in to the store to buy it today.  Theres also a butt load of incomplete things I’m not looking at, mainly dark angels with no arms and legs.  Only 25 complete (Or soon to be complete) models too.  There’s still one or two bits to identify properly so this may yet change.

The box also contained a set of drawers, a Skaven, a Purestrain Genestealer, an Elf, a Lizardman, a Zombie, and a random pair of rubber legs, none of which I’ve identify yet.  Pointers there would be appreciated, but I’ve not really begun to look for them yet.  I also found the most inportant item: A bouncy rubber ball with a fish in it!

Daemon 2 - Daemon of Khorne Bloodthirster

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This is an old sculpt of a Bloodthirster, right?  One of the spikes on one wing has snapped off but otherwise he appears intact.  A missing spike is just battle damage if I can’t find it.  I can live with that.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Daemons-Of-Khorne-Bloodthirster

Daemon 1 - Daemon of Khorne?

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Is this a Bloodthirster?  A Daemon Prince?  Something else?  I see no direct match on the web store.

Chaos Daemons on GW

 

Edit: Its a Daemon Prince

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Daemon-Prince-2016

Dreadnaught 2 - Vanilla Dreadnaught, not An Ironclad

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Looks like an Ironclad but the plating on the front isn’t a 100% match.  I hope the missing shoulder turret things are in a box somewhere.  Are the essential or are there variants without them?

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Space-Marine-Dreadnought

 

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Space-Marine-Ironclad-Dreadnought

 

Edit 14/01/19: Trying to identify the loadout

He has a Lascannon, and Mark V Power Fist.

The spares are a Left Shoulder Missile Launcher and a Right Shoulder Assault Cannon

I also have these weapons.  If I was inclined, and I could safeley remove the existing weapons I could magnetise both sets to swap in and out.  Still not sure what was glued to its shoulders once, but it doesn't seem to matter.I also have these weapons. If I was inclined, and I could safeley remove the existing weapons I could magnetise both sets to swap in and out. Still not sure what was glued to its shoulders once, but it doesn't seem to matter.

Venerable Dreadnought with Church Windows design and a halo

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I can’t find one on the web store with this design on it.  Any clues?  I think I see some Space Wolves in the box if that helps identify anything.

 

Edit: Found thanks to @lordofuzkulak

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Space-Marine-Venerable-Dreadnought

 

Edit 14/01/19

Trying to identify load out.  I believe thats a Venerable Dreadnaught Power Fist, and an Assault Cannon.  Is that an iron halo?  Are Space Wolf Dreadnoughts allowed those?  I thought not.

Are there any limits on the weapons Space Wolf Dreadnoughts can have?  Are my 2 legal?

Land Raider?

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A Land Raider?  Seems like the turrets are missing bits.  Perhaps those loose weapons?  Perhaps just end pieces/caps?

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Space-Marine-Land-Raider

 

Update: 25/09/18

I’ve added a pic of a sprue to the gallery which highlights the parts I believe I am missing.  I’m not seeing them on eBay.  If anyone has them I’ll reimburse you.  I can buy the other set of guns on eBay, and it would be quite simple to mod them to fit but the guy wants £12 just for the bottom half of that pic, which doesn’t seem proportional to the cost of the whole tank.

EDIT (5 minutes later):  Looking again, the guns do appear to be side agnostic after all.

Anyone know the cheapest way/place to get a whole new unassembled Land Raider?  Might be better to build a second up with different weapon options and use the lascannons for this one.

Predator Tank

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This would be a Predator tank?  That bit on top, is that from the Vindicator, or is this not a Predator?

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Predator-2017

Vindicator??

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Looks like a Vindicator, but the thing on top has snapped off.  The bit at the back is missing too, but theres no sign anything was glued there so perhaps its not a Vindicator?  Anyone got any better pics of the missing parts to help see if I have them in the bits box?

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Space-Marine-Vindicator

Having looked through the full gallery on the web store for this tank, it apperas the bits on top are optional extras, and this gun turret is just as valid.  Thres 2 painted up, and 2 tanks with then snapped off of so the previous owner must have been using this part.  I'm calling this tank comp;lete, unless anyone sees anything else?Having looked through the full gallery on the web store for this tank, it apperas the bits on top are optional extras, and this gun turret is just as valid. Thres 2 painted up, and 2 tanks with then snapped off of so the previous owner must have been using this part. I'm calling this tank comp;lete, unless anyone sees anything else?

Soul Grinder

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https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Soul-Grinder

 

A Soul Grinder Chaos Daemon.  Possibly with a Khorne affiliation?  I don’t know if it matters or if its down to the paint scheme?  When i first saw him his arm was missing, but I found it once I got home.  One of his antenna has snapped of but I may yet find it.  if I dont, I imagine a damaged daemon is normal anyway.  hes not damaged, he’s custom modded.  Right?

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I was helping my karate club run a stallat a school fete that had a boot sale of 6 cars attatched to it.  While handing out leaflets at the boot sale I saw a box with some GW in it, and a couple of drawers too.  I asked how much it was and they said £10.  I assumed per tank but then they said it was for everything, not just the box.  I don’t play 40k but how can I say no to that when I’ve already seen a few tanks and 2 winged deamons and a spiderbot.

I’ve spent the last half an hour or so photographing the bigger items and I’m about to list them here.  Could you please help me work out whats what, and work out whats missing from them.  I’d love close up images of missing parts.  I have a large bits box.  I might have the parts, if I can identify them.

Does GW have some way I can order missing parts?

Some of these models are thick with dust.  Is it OK to just run them under the tap and take a toothbrush to them, or does that just make the durst run in to the hard to reach places, making things worse?

 

Any thoughts on stripping the paint from the tanks?  They’re too big to fit in a jam jar of Dettol.  Or will I be fine just priming over the top?

The Box.  I managed to get it all in there, but the lid isn't going to close all the way without something breaking!The Box. I managed to get it all in there, but the lid isn't going to close all the way without something breaking!